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Fongie
Joined: 02.12.2006

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($257)
Hero ($100)
UTG ($120)
CO ($100)
BTN ($118)

Dealt to Hero A♦ A♥

UTG raises to $2, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $7, UTG calls $5

FLOP ($14.50) 4♣ 8♦ 9♣

Hero bets $9, UTG calls $9

TURN ($32.50) 4♣ 8♦ 9♣ 8♣

Hero bets $22, UTG raises to $104 (AI), Hero ?

Villain: 40/19 160 hands, fish


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VzLOM
Joined: 23.12.2007

hey, wait, what kind of fish? Its obv that AF/frq/raise cbet are crucial here.
Totally opp dependant. Fold by default vs passive fish.


excelgeo
Joined: 17.10.2008

well you have to look at his range.

only thing you can beat is a total bluff and a pocket Club.

so maybe fold this one?


TheLastNail
Joined: 30.05.2008

af, afq? reads?

his turn shove doesnt indicate anyhow stronger hand than he could have by just flatting coz they rarely shove over with made flush here in general and never ever with fullhouse. 8x is possible, overplayed overpair with fd is possible. 9x overplayed, str8 draw turning into bluff too..

i am deffo r more pf, bettin more flop btw coz he is not folding and wanna get value.. no balancing ever needed coz he doesnt or cannot care.

anyway, give more stats for turn decision or try to look for read, flow your image or sth.. if he is spewy and u were tight over last few hands i am instacalling this coz they are always repping the pairing card.


Fongie
Joined: 02.12.2006

AF 3.6
AFq flop 36% turn 48% river 41%

reads none I'm afraid

I'm usually careful with counting on these values without a decent sample :f_wink:


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

I think pre is ok but i'd make it at least $12 on the flop.

Then you have $38.5 in the pot and i think i'd bet $29 and call a shove against this aggro guy.

He minraised pre so there are some overpairs in his range, 98 or a set raises on the flop oftentimes.
And FDs don't make up for many combinations.


HannesNL
Joined: 19.11.2008

I think you have to fold, I completely disagree with TLN sadly. They will always shove turn with a made flush or trips. They won't shove turn with a boat though. But his range here is JT, 76, 8x, 99, 44, some made flushes and some bluffs. And if they have the 76 or JT they probably have the flushdraw as well.

I have no pokerstove on my laptop, but I think you do not get the odds.

And really, this line is a flush many times. Players are not inclined to bluff in 3betpots a lot, it is very rare, ESPECIALLY at SSNL.