Originally posted by Jackalof
What about the option "Cash out" ?
Hm, you think that's possible without clearing the bonus/waiting for it to expire? Ok, I think I will carefully ask around ^^
Well, of course ♠_biggrin:
Originally posted by Jackalof
What about the option "Cash out" ?
Hm, you think that's possible without clearing the bonus/waiting for it to expire? Ok, I think I will carefully ask around ^^
Well, of course ♠_biggrin:
ATTENTION, ATTENTION! BE AWARE! SEISMIC ACTIVITY DETECTED IN BET365! (caps lock intentional) PROOF:

^^
Played 29/21/6 style, spew spew for the win!
You wouldn't believe what a huge difference between FTP players and bet365 players is. I didn't know at first how to adapt to all those limp/call, check/fold passive guys
But then I serioused.
Some got pissed off and tried to outplay me, by raising small on paired flops in several occasions, which gave me a healthy laugh ![]()
Also ran into set over set, nut full house to straight flush; crazy PLO is crazy ![]()
FTP grind:

What a steady climb downwards from 1K hands mark. Looks like a tilt graph, but it didn't bother me, played the same way, just ran into consecutive shit ![]()
Regarding speed - i-poker tilts me like a flea tilts a monkey. Today 3-hour 4 table (can't add more, they overlap on each other so cant follow action) grind gave me 700 hands (to all those who mutter about my volume - please, go out there and grind some PLO, you'll see how 'fast' it is). 2-hour 4 table Rush tables grind in FTP gave me 1900 hands.
Anyway, quite happy with the volume and my play, will definately grind some more lately.
Oh, and there will be a new depositors' freeroll in bet365, but prizes are in Merit Points - haha, so bad
Maintenance in FTP, so no grind there so far.
Played some in bet365 thou, PLO20:

Yesterday played in bet365 new depositors freeroll. About 200 entrants, first 100 get invitation to other freeroll + points. Was in top20 all the way until shoved KK on AJh, flop rags, turn J, river J, i bust in 102nd ![]()
Also played in FTP $11BI $10K gtd, busted in ~400 out of 2000, flush vs higher flush ^^
Will update with FTP Rush grind later.
UPDATE
FTP is giving me its crap again. Included AI EV to make me feel better ![]()

One of those sessions where you get everything at once: you fail all draws, villain hits all draws. Even when I had nuts on turn being all-in, I was thinking: "well, let's see a two-outer Jack". Boom, jack. "Yep, on to the next hand".
PLO is sick, variance is sick, and it makes me sick ^^
Hey Jackalof,
What BRM do you use for PLO? I'm trying out a little of RUSH 10 ![]()
peche
Hey peche,
For Rush poker I use 50+ BRM because it's super swingy.
Good luck and meet me in PLO25 if you feel adventurous ^^
But maybe that will not happen because I'm thinking about reducing Rush grind volume because it's not working too great for me. I miss normal tables with reads and stuff.
Today grinded some 'normal' (not rush) PLO25 on FTP. Hands did not hold:

Standard stuff ![]()
Will play a $11BI NLHE $7.5K gtd MTT for relaxation ^^
Later - bet365 donkey attack! ![]()
UPDATE:
damn MTT ruined all plans. I ran deep into it, wasted 4+hours to bust in 14th out of 779 and win $50 or so. Now don't have the mood to grind bet365. Oh well...

Haven't updated for a while because nothing exceptional was happening. Oh, and I also hate copycats ![]()
Bet365:

FTP:

Super funny hand from today's session:
$0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 Players
Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 A♠ J♠ 8♦ 10:spade:
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.85, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.85, 2 folds
Flop: 5♣ K♦ 6♦ ($2.05, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.20, BTN calls $1.20
Turn: 10:heart: ($4.45, 2 players)
Hero bets $3, BTN calls $3
River: 9♣ ($10.45, 2 players)
Hero bets $4.99, BTN calls $4.99
Final Pot: $20.43
BTN shows
10:club: Q♣ A♦ Q♦
Hero shows
A♠ J♠ 8♦ 10:spade:
BTN wins $19.41 (net +$9.37)
"Hey, maybe my underpair is good here"
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--- UPDATE ---
Played some on bet365, result:

Kinda sick, eh?
5BI below AI EV.
This will serve as tilt reducer since this day was crazy both in PLO and NLHE HU. You don't have to get it - it's for personal amusement only ![]()





Sick sample size!
We will have a national holidays for the next two days, so I have stuff to do to prepare properly for it. So no time to grind and no time to participate in miniFTOPS. Will have to unregister for $T I guess.
Hopefully I can update this later in the day with a moderately better sample size.

I fail to update lately for these reasons: 1) no time for poker; 2) sick bad luck which would make me whine in blog which is low ![]()
MTTs are killing me. Can't ship anything in last couple of months, usually run deep and bust before money. So much pain ![]()
Played some PLO25 in FTP today:

Note to self: stop bluffing ![]()
Hands:
The power of Ace
$0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 Players
Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is CO 7♣ 6♥ 9♠ 10:club:
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, BTN calls $0.85, SB calls $0.75, 1 fold
Flop: 2♦ 2♥ 4♣ ($2.80, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.68, BTN folds, SB calls $1.68
Turn: A♥ ($6.16, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4.25, SB folds
Very passive player so he definately has a deuce here. He's passive enough to fold non-nuts ![]()
Busted draw
$0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 Players
Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is BB J♦ A♦ 8♣ 8♠
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, CO raises to $1.10, BTN calls $1.10, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.85, UTG folds
Flop: 6♣ 9♦ 5♦ ($3.65, 3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks
Turn: K♥ ($3.65, 3 players)
Hero bets $3, CO calls $3, BTN folds
River: 7♣ ($9.65, 2 players)
Hero bets $7, CO folds
Failed soulread
$0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
5 Players
Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 5 players) Hero is BB Q♠ 6♣ 7♠ K♣
1 fold, CO calls $0.25, 1 fold, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks
Flop: J♣ 4♥ 10:heart: ($0.75, 3 players)
SB bets $0.37, Hero calls $0.37, CO folds
Turn: J♦ ($1.49, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.49, SB calls $1.49
River: 7♥ ($4.47, 2 players)
SB bets $1.92, Hero raises to $8, SB goes all-in $25.93, Hero folds
That's it for now.

Played some in bet365:

It's so so easier to play in other platforms than FTP, no wonder I can easily play ~28 VPIP ~20 PFR ~7 3-bet. Passive donkament.
Won a ticket to miniFTOPS 7-game event, will donk and pray I bust early ^^
Busted early in miniFTOPS, nice ^^
Played some PLO in FTP:

Enough for the day.

Couldn't get things going, both in cash games and MTTs. A weird day so far. Won't bother describing MTT bad beats ^^ Will try to satellite in the upcoming miniFTOPS event (the Cashout one).
Can I ship MTT, one time? Can I, Jesus?
Bad beats are killing me
FTP PLO25:

Had no cards and no good flops, what you gonna do ![]()
Bet365 PLO20:

Not much to say, the software is so slow and the tables so scarce that it takes a while to squeeze in even 200 hands....
Will update later with the story of how I bust in another MTT and satellite ![]()
O/T: ordered Moneybookers card some time ago, it should be arriving soon. Weeeeee ![]()
QUICK UPDATE
Clueless mister
knocks out 3 people in like 5 hands
Including me. That's China for you ![]()
Wow.
Just wow.
I enter in MTTs again and again, and, yes, again. And lose, always. And get it in almost always good. I know, this sounds so bad and not right and single-minded. But in last 30 days or so I always bust in hilarious ways. So ok.
Played $6.60 MTT in bet365. Field sick bad, 207 entrants. Reach final table. 8 or 7 players left. We go all in 4 way. I have AA, vs AK AK 88. Board KxxxK, yep, one outer
Anyway, managed to climb back a bit and place 3rd for $124, so not too bad despite sick suckout.
MiniFTOPS cashout event. Start very good, was in top 50 throughout all MTT until: raise donkeys with QQ, several call (ofc). Flop 779 two hears, I c-bet, donkey ships, I call. He shows A4h. Sure, if heart hits, it hits, standard. But no. It comes turn 4 river 4
Ok fine. No big deal. But then this comes. Donkey donks (it's what they do), I raise TT, semi new idiot at table who has been very aggressive ships ~50BB. I have an easy call since clearly he's sick aggressive and would raise better hands than mine, not just ship. So I call, he has Q9. I block straight, so he basically drawing to 3 outs. Boom, trips
I say "well played", all table laughs, he doesn't get the joke and starts explaining how he expected me to fold when he shoved
So bad. Ok, so whatever. Then I'm absolutely card dead, have ~15BB left. Guy who shipped some trash late position before ships ~10BB, clueless guy calls, I wake up with AQs so easy call. Idiot shows up with K6, clueless with AJ. Sweet. I ofc lose, have 7 or so BB left. Next hand get 77 in SB. It's folded to BU who is aggressive, but always in the wrong spots. So he open ships ~40BB which is sick bad because BB has a similar stack. I have easy call with 77. He shows K3o......... and of course rivers a flush ![]()
Yea, that's pathetic, but I really needed a vent since it's not a single or exceptional thing, but rather my daily MTT experience. It makes me sick to the bone. So I figured I better whine in my blog than create a thread about it ![]()
Also, to all those MTT grinders - you're the best guys. I don't know how you cope with this. If I somehow could get a graph with my MTT EV lines... ![]()
Ok, tomorrow is the new day, new bad beats and sucking out pathetic idiots await. I hope they all fly in the same plane when engines fail
PLO is swingy on Bet365? ![]()
I'm wondering how many merit points you get on PLO 20? I'm thinking for a fd bonus on ipoker .
Originally posted by Jackalof
Ok, tomorrow is the new day, new bad beats and sucking out pathetic idiots await. I hope they all fly in the same plane when engines fail![]()
But then there will be no donkeys to pay us off with gutshots; reg vs. reg vs. reg vs. reg vs. reg games can be quite boring
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Anyway, have to admit that your mtt went pretty sick, loosing all the hands you did..
PLO is swingy on Bet365?
Most players there are loose-passive, easy to play. Met quite a few playmakers who are definately profitable. Yea, it's swingy because you're getting called by gutshots and backdoors and occasionally get sucked out ![]()
But clearing a bonus on PLO20 = impossible. I've played 3.5K hands so far and only cleared $20. Note that software there is sick slow, I'm 6 tabling (won't find more tables) and still it takes me tons of hours to slowly clear it. The thing is - you must contribute to the pot to get Merit Points. That's why you have to play loose-aggresive
But all in all, I don't like it.
Death by boat > Death by plane
Well it depends on the sadistic taste you have, really ![]()
the cats. I agree with second kitten: 'shave your leg, dude'.
But then there will be no donkeys to pay us off with gutshots
Yea, I know, it was just a whine in general, to blow some steam off.
IM STEAMING, BOYS. HUNNY, IM STEAMING. THIS IDIOT CALLS ME WITH RAGS AND HITS A STRAIGHT. I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO, DANIEL? I WAIT FOR 4 HOURS, HIT TOP SET, BUT IVEY HITS A STRAIGHT. I WANT YOU TO DOUBLE BOOK ME, DANIEL! (*)
(*) Phill Hellmuth. "Yes, I am a homo". Preston Press, New York. 2009.
Note: Caps are intentional. That is all.

PLO action in FTP:

Two suckouts by the same person + several floats from same guy who managed to hit alot of turns/rivers = wtf dude ![]()
Couple of semi interesting hands:
$0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 Players
Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is UTG 8♠ 5♥ 7♠ 6♥
Hero raises to $0.85, UTG+1 calls $0.85, 4 folds
Flop: 4♦ 9♦ A♣ ($2.05, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.32, UTG+1 raises to $3.66, Hero calls $2.34
Turn: 6♣ ($9.37, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $4.68, Hero calls $4.68
River: Q♣ ($18.73, 2 players)
Hero bets $9.99, UTG+1 folds
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$0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 Players
Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is UTG 8♠ A♣ A♥ 6♠
Hero raises to $0.85, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.85, SB calls $0.75, BB calls $0.60
Flop: K♠ 6♦ J♠ ($3.40, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $3, 1 fold, SB calls $3, BB folds
Turn: J♥ ($9.40, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5.93, SB calls $5.93
River: 10:heart: ($21.26, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks
Final Pot: $21.26
SB shows
A♦ K♦ Q♥ 10:diamond:
Hero shows
8♠ A♣ A♥ 6♠
He was 33% on flop, 23% on turn, hits the rivers, gets zero value. Wp sir, gg ty for game, cya. ![]()
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Won ticket to miniFTOPS #20.
Will update later with bet365 performance/description of how I busted in miniFTOPS ![]()
Got owned in bet365 ![]()

Hands that best illustrate what happened:
$0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 Players
Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is UTG 9♦ 8♦ Q♦ Q♠
Hero raises to $1.75, 3 folds, SB calls $1.50, BB calls $1.25
Flop: 8♥ A♠ Q♣ ($5.25, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $3.93, SB raises to $15, BB folds, Hero raises to $50.25, SB goes all-in $53.55, Hero calls $3.30
Turn: 10:diamond: ($112.35, 2 players, 1 all-in)
River: J♥ ($112.35, 2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $112.35
SB shows
8♠ A♣ A♥ K♦
SB wins $109.35 (net +$54.05)
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$0.10/$0.20 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 Players
Pre-Flop: ($0.30, 6 players) Hero is BB J♥ J♦ 10:spade: 8♣
2 folds, CO raises to $0.70, BTN calls $0.70, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.50
Flop: 2♥ 10:club: 8♦ ($2.20, 3 players)
Hero bets $2.20, CO raises to $8.80, BTN folds, Hero calls $6.60
Turn: 5♣ ($19.80, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $19.80, Hero calls $11.32
River: A♦ ($50.92, 2 players)
Final Pot: $50.92
CO shows
A♠ A♣ K♦ Q♦
CO wins $48.80 (net +$19.50)
Time for miniFTOPS
That was a tricky question
i did see few times a player named PLOisSwingy . Do to blog name i tought is you ![]()
Ok, thanks. Looks like releasing a bonus on bet365 takes about the same time like on titan (i have a small reload bonus on titan, played about 3k hand like you, and cleared 20$) . Gotta check betfred to, from their homepage they may give more points / rake after you reached silver etc vip leveles, so the release could be faster.
Nah, not my nickname ![]()
Update on how I bust in miniFTOPS:
owned everyone left and right, until this happened:
No Limit Holdem Tournament
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
MiniFTOPS Event #20
Stacks:
UTG (12,400)
UTG+1 (20,424)
CO (17,732)
BTN (7,493)
SB (4,988)
Hero (22,475)
Blinds: 200/400 Ante 50
Pre-Flop: (900, 6 players) Hero is BB 9♠ J♣
UTG raises to 800, 4 folds, Hero calls 400
Flop: 9♦ 8♥ J♠ (2,100, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks
Turn: A♦ (2,100, 2 players)
Hero bets 1,400, UTG goes all-in 11,550, Hero calls 10,150
River: A♣ (25,200, 2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: 25,200
Hero shows two pair, Aces and Jacks
9♠ J♣
UTG shows three of a kind, Aces
Q♣ A♥
UTG wins 25,200 (net +12,800)
Hero lost 12,400
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Wasted 3 hours, busted close to bubble (~1.9Kth out of ~9.6K, 1250 get paid).
Once again - sick respect to all MTT grinders, I don't know how you do it.