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Kojika
Joined: 11.02.2009

Originally posted by Jackalof

What about the option "Cash out" ?

Hm, you think that's possible without clearing the bonus/waiting for it to expire? Ok, I think I will carefully ask around ^^

Well, of course _biggrin:


10K views mark hit - thank you for support, guys and girls! :f_p:

Also this is the 300th post in blog, what a spamfest :f_biggrin:

ATTENTION, ATTENTION! BE AWARE! SEISMIC ACTIVITY DETECTED IN BET365! (caps lock intentional) PROOF:

^^
Played 29/21/6 style, spew spew for the win!
You wouldn't believe what a huge difference between FTP players and bet365 players is. I didn't know at first how to adapt to all those limp/call, check/fold passive guys :f_cool: But then I serioused.
Some got pissed off and tried to outplay me, by raising small on paired flops in several occasions, which gave me a healthy laugh :f_grin:

Also ran into set over set, nut full house to straight flush; crazy PLO is crazy :f_biggrin:

FTP grind:

What a steady climb downwards from 1K hands mark. Looks like a tilt graph, but it didn't bother me, played the same way, just ran into consecutive shit :f_p:

Regarding speed - i-poker tilts me like a flea tilts a monkey. Today 3-hour 4 table (can't add more, they overlap on each other so cant follow action) grind gave me 700 hands (to all those who mutter about my volume - please, go out there and grind some PLO, you'll see how 'fast' it is). 2-hour 4 table Rush tables grind in FTP gave me 1900 hands.

Anyway, quite happy with the volume and my play, will definately grind some more lately.
Oh, and there will be a new depositors' freeroll in bet365, but prizes are in Merit Points - haha, so bad :f_p:


Maintenance in FTP, so no grind there so far.
Played some in bet365 thou, PLO20:

Yesterday played in bet365 new depositors freeroll. About 200 entrants, first 100 get invitation to other freeroll + points. Was in top20 all the way until shoved KK on AJh, flop rags, turn J, river J, i bust in 102nd :f_biggrin:
Also played in FTP $11BI $10K gtd, busted in ~400 out of 2000, flush vs higher flush ^^

Will update with FTP Rush grind later.

UPDATE

FTP is giving me its crap again. Included AI EV to make me feel better :f_biggrin:

One of those sessions where you get everything at once: you fail all draws, villain hits all draws. Even when I had nuts on turn being all-in, I was thinking: "well, let's see a two-outer Jack". Boom, jack. "Yep, on to the next hand". :f_biggrin: PLO is sick, variance is sick, and it makes me sick ^^


peche025
Joined: 14.12.2008

Hey Jackalof,

What BRM do you use for PLO? I'm trying out a little of RUSH 10 :)

peche


Hey peche,

For Rush poker I use 50+ BRM because it's super swingy.
Good luck and meet me in PLO25 if you feel adventurous ^^

But maybe that will not happen because I'm thinking about reducing Rush grind volume because it's not working too great for me. I miss normal tables with reads and stuff.


Today grinded some 'normal' (not rush) PLO25 on FTP. Hands did not hold:

Standard stuff :f_biggrin:

Will play a $11BI NLHE $7.5K gtd MTT for relaxation ^^

Later - bet365 donkey attack! :f_grin:

UPDATE:

damn MTT ruined all plans. I ran deep into it, wasted 4+hours to bust in 14th out of 779 and win $50 or so. Now don't have the mood to grind bet365. Oh well... :f_frown:


Haven't updated for a while because nothing exceptional was happening. Oh, and I also hate copycats :f_p:

Bet365:

FTP:

Super funny hand from today's session:

$0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 Players

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 A♠ J♠ 8♦ 10:spade:
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.85, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.85, 2 folds

Flop: 5♣ K♦ 6♦ ($2.05, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.20, BTN calls $1.20

Turn: 10:heart: ($4.45, 2 players)
Hero bets $3, BTN calls $3

River: 9♣ ($10.45, 2 players)
Hero bets $4.99, BTN calls $4.99

Final Pot: $20.43
BTN shows
10:club: Q♣ A♦ Q♦
Hero shows
A♠ J♠ 8♦ 10:spade:

BTN wins $19.41 (net +$9.37)

"Hey, maybe my underpair is good here" :f_biggrin: :f_biggrin: :f_biggrin:

--- UPDATE ---

Played some on bet365, result:

Kinda sick, eh? :f_p: 5BI below AI EV.


This will serve as tilt reducer since this day was crazy both in PLO and NLHE HU. You don't have to get it - it's for personal amusement only :f_p:




Unlike this cute little deer, I'm aggressive today :f_biggrin:

Sick sample size! :f_biggrin: We will have a national holidays for the next two days, so I have stuff to do to prepare properly for it. So no time to grind and no time to participate in miniFTOPS. Will have to unregister for $T I guess.

Hopefully I can update this later in the day with a moderately better sample size.


I fail to update lately for these reasons: 1) no time for poker; 2) sick bad luck which would make me whine in blog which is low :f_p:

MTTs are killing me. Can't ship anything in last couple of months, usually run deep and bust before money. So much pain :f_biggrin:

Played some PLO25 in FTP today:

Note to self: stop bluffing :f_biggrin:

Hands:

The power of Ace

$0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 Players

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is CO 7♣ 6♥ 9♠ 10:club:
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, BTN calls $0.85, SB calls $0.75, 1 fold

Flop: 2♦ 2♥ 4♣ ($2.80, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.68, BTN folds, SB calls $1.68

Turn: A♥ ($6.16, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4.25, SB folds

Very passive player so he definately has a deuce here. He's passive enough to fold non-nuts :f_biggrin:

Busted draw

$0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 Players

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is BB J♦ A♦ 8♣ 8♠
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, CO raises to $1.10, BTN calls $1.10, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.85, UTG folds

Flop: 6♣ 9♦ 5♦ ($3.65, 3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

Turn: K♥ ($3.65, 3 players)
Hero bets $3, CO calls $3, BTN folds

River: 7♣ ($9.65, 2 players)
Hero bets $7, CO folds

Failed soulread

$0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
5 Players

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 5 players) Hero is BB Q♠ 6♣ 7♠ K♣
1 fold, CO calls $0.25, 1 fold, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

Flop: J♣ 4♥ 10:heart: ($0.75, 3 players)
SB bets $0.37, Hero calls $0.37, CO folds

Turn: J♦ ($1.49, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.49, SB calls $1.49

River: 7♥ ($4.47, 2 players)
SB bets $1.92, Hero raises to $8, SB goes all-in $25.93, Hero folds

That's it for now.


"What do you see in this picture, Bob?"

"Some jerk just sucked out on me, aaargh!"

Long story short - the shrink dies

Played some in bet365:

It's so so easier to play in other platforms than FTP, no wonder I can easily play ~28 VPIP ~20 PFR ~7 3-bet. Passive donkament.

Won a ticket to miniFTOPS 7-game event, will donk and pray I bust early ^^

UPDATE

Busted early in miniFTOPS, nice ^^

Played some PLO in FTP:

Enough for the day.


Word of the day - slow

Couldn't get things going, both in cash games and MTTs. A weird day so far. Won't bother describing MTT bad beats ^^ Will try to satellite in the upcoming miniFTOPS event (the Cashout one).
Can I ship MTT, one time? Can I, Jesus? :f_biggrin: Bad beats are killing me

FTP PLO25:

Had no cards and no good flops, what you gonna do :f_biggrin:

Bet365 PLO20:

Not much to say, the software is so slow and the tables so scarce that it takes a while to squeeze in even 200 hands....

Will update later with the story of how I bust in another MTT and satellite :f_p:

O/T: ordered Moneybookers card some time ago, it should be arriving soon. Weeeeee :f_cool:

QUICK UPDATE

Clueless mister :f_cool: knocks out 3 people in like 5 hands :f_cool: Including me. That's China for you :f_p:

UPDATE TO FUCKING RAGE

Wow.

Just wow.

I enter in MTTs again and again, and, yes, again. And lose, always. And get it in almost always good. I know, this sounds so bad and not right and single-minded. But in last 30 days or so I always bust in hilarious ways. So ok.

Played $6.60 MTT in bet365. Field sick bad, 207 entrants. Reach final table. 8 or 7 players left. We go all in 4 way. I have AA, vs AK AK 88. Board KxxxK, yep, one outer :) Anyway, managed to climb back a bit and place 3rd for $124, so not too bad despite sick suckout.

MiniFTOPS cashout event. Start very good, was in top 50 throughout all MTT until: raise donkeys with QQ, several call (ofc). Flop 779 two hears, I c-bet, donkey ships, I call. He shows A4h. Sure, if heart hits, it hits, standard. But no. It comes turn 4 river 4 :f_biggrin: Ok fine. No big deal. But then this comes. Donkey donks (it's what they do), I raise TT, semi new idiot at table who has been very aggressive ships ~50BB. I have an easy call since clearly he's sick aggressive and would raise better hands than mine, not just ship. So I call, he has Q9. I block straight, so he basically drawing to 3 outs. Boom, trips :f_cool: I say "well played", all table laughs, he doesn't get the joke and starts explaining how he expected me to fold when he shoved :f_biggrin: So bad. Ok, so whatever. Then I'm absolutely card dead, have ~15BB left. Guy who shipped some trash late position before ships ~10BB, clueless guy calls, I wake up with AQs so easy call. Idiot shows up with K6, clueless with AJ. Sweet. I ofc lose, have 7 or so BB left. Next hand get 77 in SB. It's folded to BU who is aggressive, but always in the wrong spots. So he open ships ~40BB which is sick bad because BB has a similar stack. I have easy call with 77. He shows K3o......... and of course rivers a flush :f_biggrin:

Yea, that's pathetic, but I really needed a vent since it's not a single or exceptional thing, but rather my daily MTT experience. It makes me sick to the bone. So I figured I better whine in my blog than create a thread about it :f_biggrin:

Also, to all those MTT grinders - you're the best guys. I don't know how you cope with this. If I somehow could get a graph with my MTT EV lines... :f_biggrin:

Ok, tomorrow is the new day, new bad beats and sucking out pathetic idiots await. I hope they all fly in the same plane when engines fail :f_love:


PLO is swingy on Bet365? :)

I'm wondering how many merit points you get on PLO 20? I'm thinking for a fd bonus on ipoker .


BattleHunter
Joined: 12.11.2009

Originally posted by Jackalof
Ok, tomorrow is the new day, new bad beats and sucking out pathetic idiots await. I hope they all fly in the same plane when engines fail :f_love:

But then there will be no donkeys to pay us off with gutshots; reg vs. reg vs. reg vs. reg vs. reg games can be quite boring ;(

Anyway, have to admit that your mtt went pretty sick, loosing all the hands you did..


PLO is swingy on Bet365?

Most players there are loose-passive, easy to play. Met quite a few playmakers who are definately profitable. Yea, it's swingy because you're getting called by gutshots and backdoors and occasionally get sucked out :f_p:
But clearing a bonus on PLO20 = impossible. I've played 3.5K hands so far and only cleared $20. Note that software there is sick slow, I'm 6 tabling (won't find more tables) and still it takes me tons of hours to slowly clear it. The thing is - you must contribute to the pot to get Merit Points. That's why you have to play loose-aggresive :f_p: But all in all, I don't like it.

Death by boat > Death by plane

Well it depends on the sadistic taste you have, really :f_cool:
:f_love: the cats. I agree with second kitten: 'shave your leg, dude'.

But then there will be no donkeys to pay us off with gutshots

Yea, I know, it was just a whine in general, to blow some steam off.

IM STEAMING, BOYS. HUNNY, IM STEAMING. THIS IDIOT CALLS ME WITH RAGS AND HITS A STRAIGHT. I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO, DANIEL? I WAIT FOR 4 HOURS, HIT TOP SET, BUT IVEY HITS A STRAIGHT. I WANT YOU TO DOUBLE BOOK ME, DANIEL! (*)

(*) Phill Hellmuth. "Yes, I am a homo". Preston Press, New York. 2009.
Note: Caps are intentional. That is all.


Omg won some cents! Lets see how many cheeseburgers I can afford

PLO action in FTP:

Two suckouts by the same person + several floats from same guy who managed to hit alot of turns/rivers = wtf dude :f_biggrin:

Couple of semi interesting hands:

$0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 Players

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is UTG 8♠ 5♥ 7♠ 6♥
Hero raises to $0.85, UTG+1 calls $0.85, 4 folds

Flop: 4♦ 9♦ A♣ ($2.05, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.32, UTG+1 raises to $3.66, Hero calls $2.34

Turn: 6♣ ($9.37, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $4.68, Hero calls $4.68

River: Q♣ ($18.73, 2 players)
Hero bets $9.99, UTG+1 folds

_____________________________

$0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 Players

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is UTG 8♠ A♣ A♥ 6♠
Hero raises to $0.85, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.85, SB calls $0.75, BB calls $0.60

Flop: K♠ 6♦ J♠ ($3.40, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $3, 1 fold, SB calls $3, BB folds

Turn: J♥ ($9.40, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5.93, SB calls $5.93

River: 10:heart: ($21.26, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: $21.26
SB shows
A♦ K♦ Q♥ 10:diamond:
Hero shows
8♠ A♣ A♥ 6♠

He was 33% on flop, 23% on turn, hits the rivers, gets zero value. Wp sir, gg ty for game, cya. :f_grin:

_______________________

Won ticket to miniFTOPS #20.
Will update later with bet365 performance/description of how I busted in miniFTOPS :f_cool:

UPDATE

Got owned in bet365 :f_biggrin:

Hands that best illustrate what happened:

$0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 Players

Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is UTG 9♦ 8♦ Q♦ Q♠
Hero raises to $1.75, 3 folds, SB calls $1.50, BB calls $1.25

Flop: 8♥ A♠ Q♣ ($5.25, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $3.93, SB raises to $15, BB folds, Hero raises to $50.25, SB goes all-in $53.55, Hero calls $3.30

Turn: 10:diamond: ($112.35, 2 players, 1 all-in)

River: J♥ ($112.35, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $112.35
SB shows
8♠ A♣ A♥ K♦

SB wins $109.35 (net +$54.05)

______________________

$0.10/$0.20 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 Players

Pre-Flop: ($0.30, 6 players) Hero is BB J♥ J♦ 10:spade: 8♣
2 folds, CO raises to $0.70, BTN calls $0.70, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: 2♥ 10:club: 8♦ ($2.20, 3 players)
Hero bets $2.20, CO raises to $8.80, BTN folds, Hero calls $6.60

Turn: 5♣ ($19.80, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $19.80, Hero calls $11.32

River: A♦ ($50.92, 2 players)

Final Pot: $50.92
CO shows
A♠ A♣ K♦ Q♦

CO wins $48.80 (net +$19.50)

Time for miniFTOPS


That was a tricky question :) i did see few times a player named PLOisSwingy . Do to blog name i tought is you :)

Ok, thanks. Looks like releasing a bonus on bet365 takes about the same time like on titan (i have a small reload bonus on titan, played about 3k hand like you, and cleared 20$) . Gotta check betfred to, from their homepage they may give more points / rake after you reached silver etc vip leveles, so the release could be faster.


Nah, not my nickname :f_biggrin:

Update on how I bust in miniFTOPS:

owned everyone left and right, until this happened:

No Limit Holdem Tournament
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
MiniFTOPS Event #20

Stacks:
UTG (12,400)
UTG+1 (20,424)
CO (17,732)
BTN (7,493)
SB (4,988)
Hero (22,475)

Blinds: 200/400 Ante 50

Pre-Flop: (900, 6 players) Hero is BB 9♠ J♣
UTG raises to 800, 4 folds, Hero calls 400

Flop: 9♦ 8♥ J♠ (2,100, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: A♦ (2,100, 2 players)
Hero bets 1,400, UTG goes all-in 11,550, Hero calls 10,150

River: A♣ (25,200, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: 25,200
Hero shows two pair, Aces and Jacks
9♠ J♣
UTG shows three of a kind, Aces
Q♣ A♥

UTG wins 25,200 (net +12,800)

Hero lost 12,400

:f_biggrin: :f_biggrin: :f_biggrin:

Wasted 3 hours, busted close to bubble (~1.9Kth out of ~9.6K, 1250 get paid).
Once again - sick respect to all MTT grinders, I don't know how you do it.