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[Closed] 87s monsterdraw multiway pot

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Becks777
Joined: 04.03.2006

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($135)
BB ($100)
Hero ($108)
UTG+1 ($171)
CO ($42.65)
BTN ($111)

Dealt to Hero 8♥ 7♥

Hero raises to $3, UTG+1 calls $3, CO calls $3, BTN calls $3, fold, fold

FLOP ($13.50) 6♥ K♥ 9♠

Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO bets $5, BTN calls $5, Hero raises to $32, UTG+1 folds, CO folds, BTN raises to $108 (AI), Hero calls $73.50 (AI)

TURN ($229) 6♥ K♥ 9♠ J♥

RIVER ($229) 6♥ K♥ 9♠ J♥ T♣

MP: 43/11/3.2/26 123 h
CO: 41/6/2.1/25/ 364 h
BU: 25/21/3.6/25 1.5 k h

Pre i think its okay to raise it. But not necessary.
Flop i decided to c/r because the players behind me were loose and aggro. If i bet my bet looks strong and i only get raise by 2pair+. And if i don´t hit on the Turn it kinda sucks oop cause the pot is so big.

After BU shoves i put him on a flushdraw. Because he would have raised 2pair+ vs. the fish. And he is also raising 9hxh. Only 9hxh has me in bad shape vs. other flushdraws i have 12 outs and since i´m getting 1 to 2.12 i need 32 % which i have.

Better cbet Flop?

€: I thought about the hand again. Problem is my percieved Range is always a draw. Villain will always think i am cbetting 66 99 AK.


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v3rc3tt1
Joined: 22.12.2007

Hey,

I like bet/3b because
1. If you get raised you gonna ship it and be happy about it.
2. You'll build the pot so if you hit on T you get massive value from the donks. If they flat you and you miss T you can just ch/c 3-4way or bet scary card in hu on T because you don't have much FE if multi on T. I don't really trust AF for small samples so based on their preflop stat I think they are not as aggro postflop as you might think.
3. The reg is definitely unlikely to bet without a hand as it's 4way with 2 donks. If he decides to steal I doubt he'll steal with 1/3 bet. Prolly 1/2 pot, 3/5 pot.

The reg knows you bet your strong hands to get value from the donks on this board so if you ch/r him your hand is faced up imo.
I think he's checking back weak draws as he knows he doesn't have much FE vs the fish and he'll hate to get ch/red by them. Therefore I think he's on nutfd/combo/sets/2 pair K9s,K6s,96s and he called pf cos he's IP and multiway with donks. He obv ships all of them over your ch/r.
5 in 13 looks really gay to me. Although I think it's waaaaaaay better to vbet bigger considering the 2 fish in the hand seems like he's inducing as he thinks u've given up and he wants to get some value from the donks by inducing them cos he prolly seen them doing dumb things vs inducers or they luv ch/r or w/e. Anyway I doubt he bet 1/3 and fold.

Cheers


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

I agree, I'd also bet/3bet rather than c/r.
If you get called in 2 spots that's great because then you basically bet with direct +EV because your equity is so good against their ranges.
And when your bet looks that strong it's ok, if the fishes call their ranges are wide and if BU calls you know he probably has a hand you can get him to fold.

One more point is that when you check both of the fishes are likely to also check even with 9x hands - if BU bets and you c/r they're probably gonna fold these, so you force the fish out of the pot by checkraising.

And by the same token as v3rc3tt1 said once someone bets his range is fairly strong so you will probably still get the money in with +EV but probably not as good as if you just bet.