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[Closed] A4s vs crazy min3better 50bb deep

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caltabiano
Joined: 09.03.2007

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($119)
BB ($209)
UTG ($48)
CO ($100)
Hero ($100)

Dealt to Hero 4♣ A♣

UTG calls $1, fold, Hero raises to $4.50, fold, fold, UTG raises to $8, Hero calls $3.50

FLOP ($17.50) 3♣ J♠ 5♠

UTG bets $14, Hero raises to $92.90 (AI), UTG calls $26 (AI)

TURN ($97.50) 3♣ J♠ 5♠ 5♦

RIVER ($97.50) 3♣ J♠ 5♠ 5♦ Q♥

The guy was min3betting all sorts of crappy hands. My plan here was to call and shove any flop. Of course this flop came pretty nice for me, but I was shoving regardless, just because his range is so wide.
Is it better to just 4bet here as well?
I figured he'd fold too much and if I call I can get a cbet out of him.


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v3rc3tt1
Joined: 22.12.2007

Hi

If he's 50 bb he's some maniac donky so I think he is most likely 3b/c w/e. So I doubt you have enough FE so prolly 4b with a wide value range. The problem with calling and shipping flops is the fact that he's a 50bb donk and I doubt he's ever folding for 25 bb anything so it basicly looks to me that it's the same as 4b and getting it in pf...

I think you should call and fold on a complete miss / ship gutter or better draw and calldown on an A or bet the A on any of the streets to get it in by the R.

Greetz


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

If you know his min3bet is basically a random hand and cbets 100% of the time it's better to call pre and shove the flop because he is probably folding more hands on the flop than preflop (he would most likely call a hand like a8 preflop but bet/fold on this flop) and he puts in a lot of dead money with his flopbet that compensates for your loss of equity if he happens to have some kind of pair now and then.

However if you know he limp/min3bets a lot I would consider overlimping with a hand like A4s that is a bit too weak to get it in pre but too strong to fold.
If he was deeper (like 80BB+) I'd just raise because against that stacksize I don't mind to call the min3bet due to the positional advantage and the implied odds, but against 50BB it's ugly to play these small aces.
But I'm not too sure about the overlimping-stuff, maybe there will be more opinions on the hand.