[Closed] Having problems with setting parents poor mindset

Originally posted by jhustincase

Originally posted by NightFrostaSS
If you have money then i don't see a problem w that, lots of thing you could do like move out and play whenever you want. If you don't have money then i guess they may have a point.

The problem with that is cause i want to play tracked...and lets say my bankroll its a bit above 300mark...not to much and i dont want to withdraw because all of u know...want to move up but this is my big buba:))

Well then just be patient, explaining anything won't do much. It's like when those l2 or WOW nerds try to explain something about the games they play to non playing person it seems like they speak in different language, same applies to poker.

Money talks for itself, so just take maney, the f do.

Originally posted by Skyscrapers
I'd rather try to bluff a calling station than trying to explain my parents anything about poker.

Good one ♦

Kill them.

You get inheritance, the house and piece of mind

Tell them its non of their business what you do in your own time. If it was me id say im going to play even if you say i cant. no offence but you are 19, grow a pair. Good luck

Hi jhustincase! I'm from Romania too. I'm 19 and just started playing in January. I know what you mean by communist mindset and stuff like that. I didn't tell my parents I have a real money poker account, so they just think it's play money. ♦

Secondly, I go to school in another city so they don't know the time I actually dedicate to poker (I don't neglect school, but I play/study poker about 2h/day). They only see me playing about 2 hours on a Saturday night and that workS out fine for me. I think the best way to show them it's OK to play poker is to prove them you are a winning player. My big advantage is that I'll probably enter Uni on a scholarship and that I don't have any problems at school, proving them that I know what I'm doing and I'm not "gambling my life away".

You could try something like this if you have a sufficient BR:
- tell them to let you play full-time for a month (maybe in the summer);
- if you make a decent amount of money (best would be more than their basic wage) you have proven your point;
- if not, get a part-time job, and play in your spare time.

Good luck and keep in touch!

PS: For those who don't know, 10 buy-ins for NL50 would usually be a lot better than the average wages here. Especially for someone under 25.

Thx 4 ur time emanuel!nice advise!after i ll tell them i made my bankroll from nothing i ll try to play a month with their suport and after that trying to prove them i really know what i m doing...also i have a friend who made 20k in 5 runed hot tournament days:D 15k one night:-s sick...hes just a bit over 18:))...he had same problems...after that all his problems instantly solved:))...but ok i ££ try my best with my parents!

My parents are of the same mindset, they are very supportive but completely against poker, my mother especially. It is not so bad that I cannot play in their presence but they would never support me going full time on it.

I find the main problems are stigma and ignorance.

Poker, amongst many people I would call the 'parents' generation obviously still assosciate it with being a shady past time etc so it is hard for them to take any pride in their child doing this.

Secondly, they know nothing of the daily ups and downs of poker, BRM etc etc, so they will always ask, "How much did you lose today?" not even how did you do, but "how much did you LOSE?" and if i say "well actually I made $XX today" they will fire back with "but how much did you lose to make that?" It is really frustrating, and they won't even bother trying to comprehend ROI etc etc

However, I combat this a few ways, I play pretty small stakes and it's all SNG's so I often pull up Sharkscope which (thankfully) shows a steady upward trend and they don't mind if I'm not risking too much. I also play it part time so they don't see it as me trying to make it my main source of income and until I do earn enough to live off it I will keep it that way.

I also have a GF who I am trying to convince and she is coming round to it and enjoying watching my sharkscope progress and is also starting to understand ROI and BRM concepts. I will be moving in with her soon enough and then I can play more seriously without the negativity around me.

Just be patient and if you play profitable poker then they will come around.

If your parents are bothered about the gambling aspect set up some newbie poker account and show them the play chips and how your not playing for money, then play for money and build your bankroll then suddenly tell them "Yeah I was playing for money and I made 10k".

If your parents are as strict as they seem the only thing that is going to turn them around is just showing how you made a lot and then if they need more proof tell them to put $50 on an account and you'll make it a lot more in a week or two give them the money from those weeks and state how you've been doing this for ages.

a critical mass of people do not accept rationale explanations.
i suggest that you should let them have a taste of their own medicine.
ignore their explanation of something, and then they will feel your fustrations, then you can let them know that you felt that way as well. its not going to be easy, but please drop the idea if this will destroy your relationship with your parents! i know for a fact it is effective!

show em graphs.... lots of graphs

just tell em its facebook poker as a challenge with ur friends

Showing them the money is not good.
You have one hope: tell them: "Joc si eu de distractie mama... nu joc pe bani... ce naiba nu mai am 10 ani sa ma joc counter strike....";

loled at hahaownedlolz joke lol

just dont show your parents your playing. play like a ninja. once your bankroll is enough for NL100 show them how much you won and they'll never bother you again. lol

explain to them about EV and variance, but do it properly , don't say "when I don't win it's variance"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variance

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expected_value

FWIW my father didn't believe me, but believed a random ad on TV

Originally posted by MrPavlos
just tell em its facebook poker as a challenge with ur friends

that always works

- tell them that you only play with play chip (it is too late to tell that I guess)
- try to buy a laptop asap and play outside, when you at home, only review hands or read book, watch video - so you can switch easily when they enter your room