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TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

avg stack is ~ 6k i lost this hand ->9ts UTG before this when i was UTG

guy in BB is fish calling a ton preflop, chasing any draws

i'm expecting him to call on flop with most of his calling range preflop (and his calling range preflop is huge imo:JJ-22, AQs-A2s, K2s+, Q8s+, J7s+, T7s+, 96s+, 86s+, 76s, 65s, 54s, 43s, 32s, AQo-A2o, K9o+, Q9o+, J9o+, T9o, 98o, 87o, 76o, 65o, 54o, 43o, 32o)

turn line (vs his range) bet or check/call reasonable bet?

as played thought on turn, weird stack sizes left behind?
i dont know how many live outs i have. i think he might do this play with 66-88, maybe tt,jj or qq+ (if he played them passively preflop, maybe he does who knows he has a wide donkey range) maybe some combo draws on turn (flush + str8), 2 pairs, set, str8 i really cant put him on tighter range of hands.... but cos he is a fish i think he has made hand here not draw most of the time

PokerStars - $10+$1|100/200 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP+1: 1,534.00
LP: 9,933.00
CO: 7,079.00
BTN: 12,292.00
Hero (SB): 6,113.00
BB: 19,982.00
UTG: 19,354.00
UTG+1: 9,399.00
MP: 4,175.00

Hero posts SB 100.00, BB posts BB 200.00

Pre Flop: (pot: 300.00) Hero has 5♥ 6♥

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 500.00, BB calls 300.00

Flop: (1000.00, 2 players) 9♣ 3♥ 4♠
Hero bets 700.00, BB calls 700.00

Turn: (2400.00, 2 players) 5♣
Hero bets 1,400.00, BB raises to 3,200.00, Hero ???????


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larseda
Joined: 06.08.2006

pre I raise 3-3,5 BB in SB
because if u raise 2,5Bb he will get good odds to call this IP

postflop isnt easy
again a fish I whould bet the flop, becuase there is only the 9 he chould hitet
on turn I dont bets, because all hands he called on flop he will also call on turn and all have us beat. (if he calls 77 on flop, he also calls on turn)
so I play check/call on turn (we have outs and a bluffcatcher)
and evaluate new on river


TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

Originally posted by TheRebuz

i'm expecting him to call on flop with most of his calling range preflop (and his calling range preflop is huge imo:JJ-22, AQs-A2s, K2s+, Q8s+, J7s+, T7s+, 96s+, 86s+, 76s, 65s, 54s, 43s, 32s, AQo-A2o, K9o+, Q9o+, J9o+, T9o, 98o, 87o, 76o, 65o, 54o, 43o, 32o)

so i'm expecting him to call on flop with all PP, any pair, any over cards,Ax, any draw (even backdoor draws) basically 80% of his preflop range.
so u think we shouldnt bet on turn to protect from his overcards and some draws that he will call again?
the thing is that when he raises us on turn we r in tricky spot (as happens) so we i guess ur suggesting not to bet turn to see cheap river?

btw- i bet less vs him preflop cos his donk (i saw him earlier how he plays some hands and what is he calling with) and he will call with almost any 2 preflop no matter what pot odds r, and i like to make cheaper C bet...

-vs him limp pre should be best i dint think about it at the time cos i almost never limp in sb first in and when i open raise preflop vs donks like him i can represent hi card flops and get payed of when i hit hard co he'll think i have hi cards

as played what do u think on turn after he raised?


Anssi
Joined: 03.07.2008

If he calls your sb raise anyways I'm just limping this hand. I neither want to play big pot by raising 4x preflop and have him call and then be in awful spot postflop.

As played I raise only to 500 on flop, and check-call turn both with my bet sizes and yours.


larseda
Joined: 06.08.2006

u raise less preflop that he calls any2 ?
but u just have 43% equity and u are OOP
so its a -ev spot for u

I raise more and just 35% on SB because I am OOP

if he calls this range on flop and turn ... then bet/broke all lines
but I never saw a vill calling that braindead

on the flop he may call any PP, some A and overcards
there are no good draws possible(u allready have the best one)
but most A or overpairs the will fold on turn
u also cant remove QQ+ from his preflop range (I also prefer to call QQ+ preflop against aggro players)