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[Closed] 200NL - AQ on KxxssAo xs river - check or bet?

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Villain: VPIP: 26 PFR: 22 WTS: 22 AF: 3.0 Folds to C-Bets: 42% (fold to turn 30%) 3-bets: 7.6% Sample: 2.5k Hands - No Reads

This bet on the river might be too thin, what u think?

Full Tilt Poker $200.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 899433
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

Hero (UTG): $295.55
MP: $203.00
CO: $329.70
BTN: $431.00
SB: $201.00
BB: $207.30

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is UTG with Q :spade: A :club:
Hero raises to $7, MP calls $7, 4 folds

Flop: ($17.00) 7 :spade: K :club: 5 :spade: (2 players)
Hero bets $12.00, MP calls $12

Turn: ($41.00) A :heart: (2 players)
Hero bets $28.00, MP calls $28

River: ($97.00) 2 :spade: (2 players)


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mrandom
Joined: 01.12.2006

I will bet a little more on the turn - Kx / draws are not folding anyway.

And on the river it seems close... I think I'll start with checking and expect him not to turn his made hands into a bluffs, so when (if) he bets his range would be pretty polarized between missed SDs and FDs which get there, so I may end up calling.


VzLOM
Joined: 23.12.2007

std bet\fold and blocket\fold river for me.


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

On the turn you could make it slightly bigger, but vs a good played this betsizing is fine since you can bet that small with air as well.

As played on the river I'd not bet. A big bet will scare all worse valuehands and a blockbet is also likely to not get value - in fact he might be inclined to turn his medium strength hands into a bluff because he knows you don't have too many strong hands in your range so you're blockbet/folding a lot.

I'd c/f this for the most part, imo he's not turning medium strength hands into bluffs too often so he bets a polarized range that contains little air.


VzLOM
Joined: 23.12.2007

in fact he might be inclined to turn his medium strength hands into a bluff because he knows you don't have too many strong hands in your range so you're blockbet/folding a lot.

imo he's not turning medium strength hands into bluffs too often

emm? You mean he can turn his medium hand into bluff by pushing on our bet but he cant do it bu just checking? Ok making some sense if he can read our range good (while our range would be medium-strong after bet he cant call, so he have to fold or push)


Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

yes, I think that's what he means. So if we bet small it looks like we have a medium strength hand that we are block bet/folding and so he might well "take us up on our offer" and turn his medium strength hands (which he knows are no longer any good) into bluffs.

Whereas if we don't bet at all and he has some medium strength hand he may well assume he has some showdown value and not see any need to turn his hand into a bluff (e.g. most Kx hands). part of the reason he it's less likely to bet is exactly because he knows we maybe taking an inducing line sometimes.


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

Originally posted by VzLOM

in fact he might be inclined to turn his medium strength hands into a bluff because he knows you don't have too many strong hands in your range so you're blockbet/folding a lot.

imo he's not turning medium strength hands into bluffs too often

emm? You mean he can turn his medium hand into bluff by pushing on our bet but he cant do it bu just checking? Ok making some sense if he can read our range good (while our range would be medium-strong after bet he cant call, so he have to fold or push)

LOL, yes that's what I meant (also see Tims post).

I usually just write down what I'm thinking so sometimes it's a bit confusing, sorry for that.

The idea is basically that when we check he doesn't know whether we're giving up or bluffcatching so he is probably inclined to check back with SD-value - there's no need to turn his SD-value into a bluff.

By blockbetting we define our range more so he now knows we don't have a great hand - but our not-so-great-hand beats his! So he's not calling/should not be calling, but he could think about raising and therefore actually turning his hand into a bluff - but this time our range is different.