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[Closed] $6_10BB_K4s on BB vs SB limping

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JohnTheGreatest
Joined: 28.01.2010

No Limit Holdem Tournament
FullTiltPoker
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
$6 + $0.50 Sit & Go (Turbo)

Stacks:
UTG (2,280)
CO (4,070)
BTN (2,400)
SB (1,660)
Hero (BB) (3,090)

Blinds: 150/300

Pre-Flop: (450, 5 players) Hero is BB K♦ 4♦
3 folds, SB calls 150, Hero goes all-in 3,090, SB goes all-in 1,360

Flop: 3♦ 9♠ 7♠ (4,750, 2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: J♣ (4,750, 2 players, 2 all-in)

River: J♠ (4,750, 2 players, 2 all-in)

I watched one Chenny's video where he said that often limping from late pos.means wakness., so I decided to push when this guy limped, cause my hand was good enough to do this imo.

and this guy was pretty loose all the time

Did I make correct move? (based on my reads and hand)


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

How was he loose? Lot of raising or limping? If he is passive limper shove is quite standard. But if he has been loose aggressive type then I would be suspicious about his limp.


JohnTheGreatest
Joined: 28.01.2010

lot of limping and minraising and often folded on the board, he used to bet only very small amounts of pot as bets if he were in the hand, but if he got re-raised then folded very often.

But I think there was one case where he got back his starting 1500 chips +some more by firing on the flop or turn, so his oppon.folded. - so maybe yeah, he was rather LAG.

So this is not a good shove against LAGs???


ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Originally posted by miljonszalie
So this is not a good shove against LAGs???

Well, if player has been LAG preflop (e.g. usually open raising, using 3bets etc.) and he will then just limp with 5bb in SB it should rise some suspicion. Why is he only limping and not shoving right away?

In this case villain seem to be passive and his normal style might be to limp in this spot so shove is ok.


Unless we have a specific read that he is limping as a trap, i would shove here.

In fact i would call in this spot if he shoved into us. I would imagine this would be a spot where SB would shove pretty wide since he's facing only 1 opponent and he's so short now


Hlynkinn
Joined: 14.06.2008

Unless we have a specific read that he is limping as a trap, i would shove here.

Yup I like this :)


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

Originally posted by elhh82
Unless we have a specific read that he is limping as a trap, i would shove here.

In fact i would call in this spot if he shoved into us. I would imagine this would be a spot where SB would shove pretty wide since he's facing only 1 opponent and he's so short now

This exactly.


Trbst
Joined: 26.09.2007

Do you guys think our hand is strong enough against his range to call a possible push ? I plugged some 37% range into equilator and it gave me 43% result for the K4s. He might as well be shoving a lot wider but that seemed like a reasonable range for somebody at risk for his tourney life. Even against a 48% range we're getting 44% equity.


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Originally posted by Trbst
Do you guys think our hand is strong enough against his range to call a possible push ? I plugged some 37% range into equilator and it gave me 43% result for the K4s. He might as well be shoving a lot wider but that seemed like a reasonable range for somebody at risk for his tourney life. Even against a 48% range we're getting 44% equity.

Pot odds are important. We can call even if we feel we're behind.


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