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[Closed] FD and TP; any mistakes?

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nemiren
Joined: 28.09.2009

Known players:
[tg]Position:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;BB:11/64/18/0.8/25/-/-/50;MP3:04/75/50/1.0/33/0/0/0;CO:13/69/0/1.3/60/-/-/83;BU:11/64/27/0.8/43/50/-/33;[/tg]
0.05/0.1 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Elephant.Base 0.91 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K♠, J♠
Hero raises, MP3 folds, CO calls, BU calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8.00 SB) K♣, 8♠, 5♠ (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, 2 folds.

Turn: (5.00 BB) A♣ (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

River: (7.00 BB) 5♥ (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

Final Pot: 9.00 BB


8 replies
Epitaph
Joined: 29.07.2006

nice hand! pretty standard imo. he is obviously a donk and will call down weaker Kx, 8, random pockets etc etc...


nemiren
Joined: 28.09.2009

Thnks for your help. strange to me u are only bronze :)


firsttsunami
Joined: 23.01.2006

your kicker does not count anymore and certainly CO would have raised a king on the flop and way often the 8 as well. thats what i assume. i would check/call the river as he might raise with the A and you cant really fold due to the big amount of busted draws and you may get value out of 66 77 86 87 89 T8 J8 Q8 sometimes but not always as he may decide to fold on to the third barrel with just 4th pair. being him i would fold. the combinations he could call with count 84. but when you consider the busted draws like 67 97 96 QT QJ JT :club: + :spade: busted Flushdraws youll get a similar amount of hands and considere that he folds 8x sometimes and does raise with ax i prefer c/c over bet/call.


nemiren
Joined: 28.09.2009

that was amazing.. now i am also more for a c/c.


Boomer2k10
Joined: 22.09.2010

Originally posted by firsttsunami
your kicker does not count anymore and certainly CO would have raised a king on the turn and way often the 8 as well. thats what i assume. i would check/call the river as he might raise with the A and you cant really fold due to the big amount of busted draws and you may get value out of 66 77 86 87 89 T8 J8 Q8 sometimes but not always as he may decide to fold on to the third barrel with just 4th pair. being him i would fold. the combinations he could call with count 84. but when you consider the busted draws like 67 97 96 QT QJ JT :club: + :spade: busted Flushdraws youll get a similar amount of hands and considere that he folds 8x sometimes and does raise with ax i prefer c/c over bet/call.

You seem to have this a little confused...the A came on the turn not the river so you certainly can't put the CO on raising a K or 8 on the turn or on the flop for that matter given the guy seems loose and bad.

Given the pot-size and the sheer number of draws I think we have to protect our hand and bet on the turn.

x/c may be an option ont he river if everything bricks and, as you say, our kicker doesn't play so we're only getting paid off by 8x, maybe, and we may gain a ton from inducing.


Epitaph
Joined: 29.07.2006

Originally posted by nemiren
Thnks for your help. strange to me u are only bronze :)

untracked stars-account :O


firsttsunami
Joined: 23.01.2006

hey boomer. i corrected my post and i meant that he'd probably raised x8 and more than ever a Kx on the flop and thus it's more likely that he has some drawing hand. obvious that he shouldn't raise the K on the turn.


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