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[Closed] 0,5/1sh QQ, freecard (?) raise on flop

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frzl
Joined: 25.04.2006

i saw this hand in a movie from a pretty good german fl player:

mp2 limps, hero raises from the sb with Q :club:Q :diamond:, mp2 calls

flop: 7 :club:T :diamond:K :club:

hero bets, mp2 raises, hero calls

turn: A :diamond:

check - check

river: 3 :diamond:

hero checks, mp2 bets, hero folds...

i don´t like the fold on the river. all draws busted and a T is still possible.
what do you think ?


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Did he say anything about his opponent?
Without reads it's nearly impossible here to say if this was a good or bad fold.
Against a TAG or LAG this fold is awful but against a rock the who really only raises a K here the riverfold is good but then he should fold the flop with this read....


frzl
Joined: 25.04.2006

absolutely no reads because 0,5/1 is of course not his regular limit :)
he didn´t say much about the hand. just that the guy often has the K... which sounds wrong to me.
i think the only read he had was that this guy limps first in ;)


Weird. Why does he call the flop then if he knows that he has the K here? He might raise for a freecard with his flushdraw and bluffbets on the river after we showed no strength or with the T but then fears an ace but then after our check he agains sees a valuebet on the river.


abzupfer
Joined: 13.04.2006

A first in limper from MP3 is imho not so very likely to have the King. ?(

Rather Ax, suited conns or a small pair. QJ would have bet the turn. So in my opinion the Ace, a T or a busted draw are the most likely hands and I would call the River getting 1:5 since the A would probably have bet the Turn.

Indeed Hero's play check behind turn call any River looks much better to me ?(


frzl
Joined: 25.04.2006

i really don´t get it myself. but i always give players who are playing 10/20++ some credit for playing correctly so i had to ask ;)


Who played this hand? weyoun?


frzl
Joined: 25.04.2006

stonebiter


Ahh ok. ;)