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[Closed] PLO25 - perfect T-hi rundown vs cold4bet

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PL Omaha $0.25(BB) Replayer
SB ($94.44)
BB ($13)
UTG ($25)
UTG+1 ($55.29)
CO ($16.92)
Hero ($31.33)

Dealt to Hero T♠ 8♣ 7♣ 9♦

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.85, SB raises to $2.80, BB raises to $9.25, Hero ??

I'm trying to learn fullstacked PLO (played a bunch of 40bb deep hands first). I think this is probably a fairly simple spot, but I'm still unsure what the best play is.

SB = 43/32 LAG, 3bet 15%, never folds to 3bets or 4bets, very aggro both pre and postflop (300 hands)

BB = 10/5 shortstacker/nit, had barely played a hand in the time I was at the table

My own image is nitty/TAG.

The open on the button is pretty standard.

The 3bet by SB is not surprising, and if BB folds, I assume it's a simple call (unless I want to 4bet for balance).

Then the shortie 4bets. I think his range is super-heavy in AAxx, maybe some AKKx double-suited, and ultra-premium rundowns also.

What do I do here?

If I 5bet, SB will probably fold a lot and I'm probably 40/60 behind (not a disaster with dead money in the pot, but still).

If I flat, SB will probaly also call most of the time. Then I'll have less than a potsized bet left, and I will have to get it in quite light on a lot of flops. I could very well be totally dominated by SB and/or BB if I hit the flop less-than-perfectly. Also there's the possibility that SB 5bets himself, but I suppose in that case I can happily get it in vs what's most likely 2x AAxx.

I can also fold to the 4bet, but that seems not quite correct.

Please note I'm 125bb deep with SB.


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MP89EST
Joined: 30.03.2008

If I flat, SB will probaly also call most of the time. Then I'll have less than a potsized bet left, and I will have to get it in quite light on a lot of flops. I could very well be totally dominated by SB and/or BB if I hit the flop less-than-perfectly. Also there's the possibility that SB 5bets himself, but I suppose in that case I can happily get it in vs what's most likely 2x AAxx.

+1
The chances of being crushed by them I think are about the same as you crushing their 8765, 9876(not totally sure about the nit, but he plays only for the main pot)


If you had AAxx and less than a potsized bet left on the flop, you'd push pretty light too. The rest you pretty much summarized, so I'd flat the 4bet.


Nunki
Joined: 25.10.2006

If you flat and end up getting AI PF with the aggro SB you lose money.If you see a flop then the SB will likely check since the BB will always be shoving and you effectively have to act first. It is questionable whether this is a profitable scenario for you.

If you shovePF and it goes 3way then you have an EV neutral/very slightly losing situation for the side-pot and a clearly losing one versus SB's range. If the SB folds then the dead-money is not sufficient to compensate for the 50ish BB's that you have to put in versus the BB as a likely 60/40 dog.

Folding is obviously neutral EV.

I'd say that folding is your least worse option. What do the experts say?


Ribbo
Joined: 25.06.2010

Originally posted by Nunki
If you flat and end up getting AI PF with the aggro SB you lose money.If you see a flop then the SB will likely check since the BB will always be shoving and you effectively have to act first. It is questionable whether this is a profitable scenario for you.

If you shovePF and it goes 3way then you have an EV neutral/very slightly losing situation for the side-pot and a clearly losing one versus SB's range. If the SB folds then the dead-money is not sufficient to compensate for the 50ish BB's that you have to put in versus the BB as a likely 60/40 dog.

Folding is obviously neutral EV.

I'd say that folding is your least worse option. What do the experts say?

I like a fold here since we have only put 80 cents in and for the reasons given with be OOP. If we had 3 bet preflop then obviously we can't fold due to money invested.