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[Closed] 6.5$ turbo postflop dilemma

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Torg0th
Joined: 26.03.2010

No reads on villain

I've been faced with a similar situation many times and i'm always hesitant to shove in fear of 2 pairs or sets on a board like this, especially since you can probably take out the possibility of a semi-bluff...

Thoughts?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 6.5 Tournament, 20/40 Blinds (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

Button (t1485)
SB (t1710)
BB (t1515)
UTG (t1095)
UTG+1 (t1755)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1395)
Hero (CO) (t3045)

Hero's M: 50.75

Preflop: Hero is CO with A, A
2 folds, MP1 calls t40, 1 fold, Hero bets t160, 3 folds, MP1 calls t120

Flop: (t380) 4, 10, Q (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets t240, MP1 raises to t640, Hero ???


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arinho
Joined: 30.11.2007

just shove and be happy about it...
there are many worse hands he can do it with


Hlynkinn
Joined: 14.06.2008

Originally posted by arinho
just shove and be happy about it...
there are many worse hands he can do it with

this exactly..


Torg0th
Joined: 26.03.2010

What worse hands? He might do it with KK, but his preflop line heavily indicates that he doesn't have that (I had him on something like 10 hands but he seemed like a 30/10 kind of guy). Then you're left with JQ, KQ, AQ, which most people probably wouldn't raise on a board like this... Finally, the small possibility of a semi-bluff with KJ or J9.

Spoiler

I kind of agree with you that you still need to shove but it definitely isn't a clear decision I think... Anyway the guy showed TT and I got owned


Hlynkinn
Joined: 14.06.2008

Originally posted by Torg0th
What worse hands? He might do it with KK, but his preflop line heavily indicates that he doesn't have that (I had him on something like 10 hands but he seemed like a tagish player). Then you're left with KQ, AQ, which most people probably wouldn't raise on a board like this...

Spoiler

I kind of agree with you that you still need to shove but it definitely isn't a clear decision I think... Anyway the guy showed TT and I got owned

Tag's don't limp/call =)

44, TT, QQ, QT, AQ, KQ, QJ, AT, KT, JT, KJ, AJ, J9, and some pocket pairs and bunch of craps...

I would rarely give him credit with TT or QQ here if he has raised some hands earlier on... if he has only limped sure these hands are in his range..

With that said I believe we're beat here around 20% of the time...

make a note on him if he limp/calls TT preflop.. and move on.. it's just a cooler...


Torg0th
Joined: 26.03.2010

Lol I edited during the time you answered but he wasn't really tag more like 30/10. I'd take out QQ, AQ and maybe even KQ from his preflop line, then you're left with hands that most people wouldn't raise on this board. You can't really tell yourself in good conscience that you're only beat 20% of the time here from his bet line, on the flop maybe but not after his raise...


viewer88
Joined: 19.04.2008

Snapshove vs an unknown villain... imo you are ahead here almost always. same with KK and AQ and even KQ if you raise that pre. Betsizes look good.


get it in.

every Qx combo in the deck plays it like this, a lot of Tx as well as a lot of draws/mid pairs and JJ-KK.

you have his range absolutely crushed, dont fold an overpair in a SnG