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jdnismo
Joined: 26.07.2010

Hi, I have a question: in HEM there's a column which is "$EV Diff". What does this mean? Is it just EV?

For this hand, for example, it says my $EV Diff. is -$0.83.

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Full Tilt Poker $1 + $0.10 Madness (Sup Turbo) No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t50/t100 Blinds - 4 players - View hand 1110995
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Hero (BB): t420 4.20 BBs
CO: t380 3.80 BBs
BTN: t780 7.80 BBs
SB: t1120 11.20 BBs

Pre Flop: (t150) Hero is BB with A :club: J :spade:
2 folds, SB raises to t1120 all in, Hero calls t320 all in

Flop: (t840) 8 :spade: Q :spade: 3 :club: (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t840) 9 :spade: (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t840) 5 :diamond: (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: t840
Hero shows A :club: J :spade: (Ace Queen high)
SB shows 2 :heart: A :heart: (Ace Queen high)
Hero wins t840

According to ICM this is an obvious call, so that is +EV, and also I had the best hand preflop when all-in so that is +EV also. So what is this $EV Diff?


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fryandspicy
Joined: 27.05.2010

EV diff. is how much you win on average minus how much you actually won.


jdnismo
Joined: 26.07.2010

Ok, so why is the example above a minus number?


MatejM47
Joined: 21.01.2010

Well even if you have the best hand like AA vs KK and go all in for 100BB, you shouldn't win the whole 200bb pot, but only 160bb from the pot since you had 80% equity. So when ever you go broke and win, you win 200BB so the EV difference is -40bb.


Originally posted by MatejM47
Well even if you have the best hand like AA vs KK and go all in for 100BB, you shouldn't win the whole 200bb pot, but only 160bb from the pot since you had 80% equity. So when ever you go broke and win, you win 200BB so the EV difference is -40bb.

Correct.

So this value doesn't say if a push or call was good. It just says if you run over or under the estimated value.

So in your case the equity in your hand was:


Board:
       Equity     Win     Tie
UTG    67.98%  64.11%   3.87% { A :club:J :spade: }
UTG+1  32.02%  28.15%   3.87% { A :heart:2 :heart: }

This means you only win 67.98% of the time. You won this hand, but you shouldn't always. Thats the reason why the EV is minus.

If you have further questions, please do not hesitate to ask.

Best regards,
Hannes