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bonecore
Joined: 02.11.2009

(i played really aggressive that session and he called one of my raises with A5s defending the blind... he is also passive postflop... he checked behind a straight draw on river because 3 flush cards)

so....
shorthanded i was UG with QK ... raised and got a minreraise by button .... so i called

flop came 10 J 8
i checked , he bet and i shoved (he had 90 BB) , he called (AJ)

pokerstrategy equilator says:
on flop-->river
Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
Player 1: 44.545 % 44.545 % 0.000 % 55.455 % KdQh
Player 2: 55.455 % 55.455 % 0.000 % 44.545 % AcJc

i know i made a bad checkshove because i can NOT fold much hands that reraise
but if i knew he had AJ i would do the same .

my question is: do you think it is a coin flip against AJ ?
and if you knew he had AJ would you do the same play?


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DoigteurFou
Joined: 16.08.2007

If I knew he had a jack, I would do the same. We have 6+8 = 14 outs against a jack (maybe a few discounted that would give him two pairs) which gives you around 40% equity. With fold equity added it is clrearly +EV imo.4

With your "chove" we have no information about the sacks sizes. A shove as a too big overbet is almost allways bad!


c/rai on that spot is too big. He is not folding better hands, expect AK/AQ and you´re very often bad shape against TT+

board: JhTs5c
Hand Equity Wins Ties
KQ 36.39% 171,752 2,304
TT-AA, AJ 63.61% 301,144 2,304

even if you add AQ, Ak in his c-bet range it doesn´t change much

board: JhTs5c
Hand Equity Wins Ties
KQ 32.53% 275,336 5,760
TT-AA, AJ-AK 67.47% 574,264 5,760

so you´re always getting all-in as 35% equity, sometimes crushed by sets and sometimes flipping with AJ.
I think best play would be c/c flop and then evaluate on the turn. If you see in his bet size it is weak, then you can c/rai and expect to get folds, if not then best just to fold yourself