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Originally posted by Semesa
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Daniel Negreanu lost more buyins in almost 10% of those hands. HU cash is very swingy so it's pretty standard to have downswings like this imo.
As for the OP. seeing as you lost 51 buyins total. at NL200 that would be $10200 dollar. However you should move down way before reaching that point. Seeing as you lost $9k in 51 buyins. It looks to me you didn't move down accordingly when you lost since you probably should have lost around 75 buyins imo. Still sick downswing.
But i'm pretty sure it involves tilt + not moving down accordingly. Else i don't see how going from 11k to 2k is possible. This is also not considering the fact that you should absolutely crush those lower limits making it even less unlikely to be just bad luck.
(Yes i lack any form of sympathy for people complaining about downswings. Even though i do it myself.)
Originally posted by Hahaownedlolz
As for the OP. seeing as you lost 51 buyins total. at NL200 that would be $10200 dollar. However you should move down way before reaching that point. Seeing as you lost $9k in 51 buyins. It looks to me you didn't move down accordingly when you lost since you probably should have lost around 75 buyins imo. Still sick downswing.
But i'm pretty sure it involves tilt + not moving down accordingly. Else i don't see how going from 11k to 2k is possible. This is also not considering the fact that you should absolutely crush those lower limits making it even less unlikely to be just bad luck.
(Yes i lack any form of sympathy for people complaining about downswings. Even though i do it myself.)
Read the topic again. What do you think "200NL -> 25NL" means, that he blasted away 10k$ at NL200 and then started grinding NL25? Better luck ar picking up at people next time 
just to clear a few things up not that i need to. the 200 and 100nl hands are not in this graph because they are in pt3 trial because im too of a nit to upgrade to the professional version.
i can beat all of the limits apart from 200nl where i was taking shots (20k hands iirc) and i was around break even point.
there is spew+tilt in there no doubt but not much.
i did drop down the limits quite quickly actually, i stayed on 50nl for ages though and probably too long.
good luck in the coming months!
Originally posted by NightFrostaSS
What's your standard deviation bb/100?
ranges between 70-90 (lifetime)
Originally posted by Bliausmas
Originally posted by Hahaownedlolz
As for the OP. seeing as you lost 51 buyins total. at NL200 that would be $10200 dollar. However you should move down way before reaching that point. Seeing as you lost $9k in 51 buyins. It looks to me you didn't move down accordingly when you lost since you probably should have lost around 75 buyins imo. Still sick downswing.
But i'm pretty sure it involves tilt + not moving down accordingly. Else i don't see how going from 11k to 2k is possible. This is also not considering the fact that you should absolutely crush those lower limits making it even less unlikely to be just bad luck.
(Yes i lack any form of sympathy for people complaining about downswings. Even though i do it myself.)
Read the topic again. What do you think "200NL -> 25NL" means, that he blasted away 10k$ at NL200 and then started grinding NL25? Better luck ar picking up at people next time
You clearly either did not read my post properly. Or you simply aren't very smart. I will just go with the first for now. What i'm saying is that in order to have lost that much money in such few buyins it'd have meant he lost a big part of those buyins on NL200. If you actualy read my post properly you'd see that instead of jumping on the first chance to try to pick apart my arguements.
It's getting a bit tiring. Seems quite a few people disliking me on this forum. Trying to beat me in arguements and saying i'm wrong every chance they get. Resulting in me having to explain the most simple of things instead of people just thinking a bit about what i said and then reaching the same conclusion. I love argueing with people. I love pointing out to people how ignorant and stupid they are. So go ahead and try to "beat me in arguements" me all you want ♦
anyway. Thanks TobyCS for clearing that up. I've seen your posts on this forum since i joined this community so i do have alot of respect for you. My posts can come off as being an asshole and rude. But hey.. people need to realise saying "oh your so unlucky" isn't going to help anyone shit. Atleast i try to give people some insight and make them see their possible flaws. But i'm sure you already knew your mistakes if you had made any. Last but not least, Goodluck at the tables
Originally posted by TobyCS
Originally posted by NightFrostaSS
What's your standard deviation bb/100?ranges between 70-90 (lifetime)
Wow, pretty sick that a 3bb/100 winner could have a downer like yours (tho very very unlikely)
my winrate is higher than that anyway, plus it's not 100% downswing i know i've lost some spewing/tilt.
if you spew/tilt there's a big chance that your winrate is not higher than that (really hard to know it)
Wow, pretty sick that a 3bb/100 winner could have a downer like yours (tho very very unlikely)
gaussian distribution is a bitch, isn't it?
I hope you watched The Eightfold Path to Poker Enlightment and also read every tilt material out there so that you will not end up hanging yourself
sure, watched it a few times. i'm not tilted, what is there to get tilted about? it happened and ill move on. i didnt really need to make the thread tbh
Oh, and what about rakeback? Say you got like a 40% rakeback deal (a shitty one) - that's about 4bb/100 hands - quite a sum over 90 000 hands.
Let's say the "average" stake you played was NL70.
Thats 90 000/100 * (4*0,7) = $2500
P.S. Where's the EV-line for the second graph?
Originally posted by Hahaownedlolz
Originally posted by Bliausmas
Originally posted by Hahaownedlolz
As for the OP. seeing as you lost 51 buyins total. at NL200 that would be $10200 dollar. However you should move down way before reaching that point. Seeing as you lost $9k in 51 buyins. It looks to me you didn't move down accordingly when you lost since you probably should have lost around 75 buyins imo. Still sick downswing.
But i'm pretty sure it involves tilt + not moving down accordingly. Else i don't see how going from 11k to 2k is possible. This is also not considering the fact that you should absolutely crush those lower limits making it even less unlikely to be just bad luck.
(Yes i lack any form of sympathy for people complaining about downswings. Even though i do it myself.)
Read the topic again. What do you think "200NL -> 25NL" means, that he blasted away 10k$ at NL200 and then started grinding NL25? Better luck ar picking up at people next time
It's getting a bit tiring. Seems quite a few people disliking me on this forum. Trying to beat me in arguements and saying i'm wrong every chance they get. Resulting in me having to explain the most simple of things instead of people just thinking a bit about what i said and then reaching the same conclusion. I love argueing with people. I love pointing out to people how ignorant and stupid they are. So go ahead and try to "beat me in arguements" me all you want ♦
:The funny thing is that you are the one who is trying to convince people that they suck by lame arguments. Just overlook the threads where you're looking for the brain in the ass, and you should get my point. No matter if someone talks about bad downswing, or nice success story (like 1$ -> 1000$), they certainly don't need some self-proclaimed smartass to keep telling them that they suck. It's totally natural that some people started to dislike you because of your negative attitude towards everything.
Originally posted by fuzzyfish
Pretty standard.
wannabe trolls ftw
Really sick graph Toby.. kinda made me think about poker for a while.. but yea nothing you can do..
Keep it up im sure it will turn around 
I was running pretty much the same for first 2 months of this year, 200 bi below ev. I just kept on grinding like a pro and eventually shipped 2 mtts this month for 80k..
Moral of the story..Keep on grinding, never give up cause in poker anything is possible. And if you are a winning player you will eventually make your money.
However if you don't think you are a winning player spend more time on improving if you are serious about poker, cause if not you can always find a new hobby, there are 1 million things to do in life.
The reallity is most people lose in poker in longrun and if you look at the percentage that make a few k a month you will see that its prob not even 1 percent of players.
80 percent of players have the dream of being a poker pro but only 1 percent of them will actually make it = Brutal game = People having false hope