Turn play

Preflop

UTG fold, Hero OR to 3.5 BB, CO call, BU, SB, BB fold

Flop (1.7 $) 4s Kd Qd

Hero bet 7 BB, CO call

Turn (4.5 $) 4s Kd Qd 9d

Hero bet 15 BB, CO call

River (10.5 $) 4s Kd Qd 9d 5s

Hero check, CO shove All in, Hero call ...

CO show Jd 7d

Preflop standard open raise, i got caller from CO he seems as a good regular i have small sample size (after 145 hands 20/11/2/19 - VPIP/PFR/AF/WTSD)so no good reads and while playing i didn't exploit him so much so no usefull info on him. Flop c-bet prety strong, turn very ugly card for me it complets everything streights, flush, ... but i buy in short (half stack size) so i think i was commited ... what is your opinion?

6 replies

Wriggers

Joined: 21.07.2009

Posts: 3,250

09.02.2011, 15:29 0

When he shoves the river you're obviously beat. When he shoves it seems like he's desperate to get as much value as possible and just shoves. The absolute worst you're up against in this hand is KJ, and it's doubtfull KJ would call 2 barrels and then shove the river when he has the option to check behind and get a cheap(ish) showdown. The worst that's shoving this imo is KQ, and that's doubtful, much more likely to be stronger, and almost always has a straight or flush here.

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Bierbaer

Joined: 27.05.2005

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22.02.2011, 15:21 0

Either c/f river if you think you're beat too often, or shove it in for value yourself.

He is almost never bluffing in this spot, so a c/c allows him to check back all worse hands and valuebet flushes.

Variance giveth and variance taketh away.

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Steelbrewer

Joined: 22.04.2009

Posts: 580

07.04.2011, 09:43 0

If you plan to call his river shove you may sohve yourself first as well. Though I don't think he would fold a 2nd nut flush anyway.

adamxavier1

Joined: 25.06.2010

Posts: 13

08.04.2011, 15:37 0

Am I wrong for thinking in this spot villian is holding a set of 4s?

_Anonymous_

14.04.2011, 13:07 0

Originally posted by adamxavier1
Am I wrong for thinking in this spot villian is holding a set of 4s?

what is your thought process?=)

_Anonymous_

06.07.2011, 14:09 0

Rakijan ♠_love:,

Nice that You decided to write about Your hand. Our task is to help you become a great poker player. And, yes!, it's a very interesting hand indeed ;-)

I'm also recommending using hand evaluations forums in the same forum section. You could also learn how to use our hand converter before posting a hand in hand evaluations forum.

Even though your Top Pair Top Kicker is good on most of the flops, the flop is not a good one for you. You basically beat KJ/QJ only. On the turn when the worst possible card appeared on the deck, you could potentially bet again to extract value from weaker hands and potentially try to make stronger hands fold. The second one is impossible on this board, therefore you basically either bet for value or check. As there are not many hands that you beat you should check. When you check, you might either call villain's bet or fold. I would recommend folding this hand as villain's betting range includes mostly value hands that also bet river.

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Michal

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