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Cowboys Into Rockets! AGAIN!---HU Hypers---End of Year Review

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Wriggers
Joined: 21.07.2009

It's taken me a while, but I think the results orientatedness is finally starting to go. Last night I ran pretty damn bad in a session, dropped multiple BI at NL50 but at the end I felt sort of peaceful and just thought to myself "Well I played well, I ran bad, shit happens." Then I had a little break and came back and played another session, nothing really happened in this session but I started thinking more clearly and in depth about every single decision. Whether I should check back this turn or bet? Whether this river is okay for thin value or is nothing worse calling? etc etc.

So my mindset has taken a turn for the better :) Another thing I noticed is that for all of us out there who just HATE losing (And that's the majority of us right?). Well think of it this way, once we start to get rid of our results orientatedness, then when we lose money due to runbad we aren't losing: Because making the correct decision is all that matters, so as long as we keep doing that we keep winning :)


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Wriggers
Joined: 21.07.2009

In less satisfying news regarding mindset. Fml I seriously can't be arsed workign tonight :f_mad:


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Wriggers
Joined: 21.07.2009

Though I better post here that our new mentees blog is now up and running. All the knowledge we're going to pass on will be reported in this blog. So any micro players that wanted to be our mentees, get yourself over there and keep reading _cool:

[Together to the Top] - Mentored by vonki & Wriggers

Another good session of NL50, played really well imo, made some pretty big hero folds using my reads, and also pulled out some creative skillz on a reg who likes to bluffcatch There were some pretty tight spots when I had marginal holdings that I hope I made the right move on, and probably a few less than optimal plays due to being slightly risk averse atm. Unfortunately all profit for the session was (I assume) wiped out in the final hand of the session when I got it in with QQ vs AK in a BvB situation and lost. Oh well, right decisions bring money, i'm confident i'm going to beat this. Although 24h Poker's NL50 tables seem to be less fishy than 888's :(


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Wriggers
Joined: 21.07.2009

Feel like i'm talking to myself here :f_biggrin:

Just gonna put down a quick goal, as i've been neglecting my studying recently, this obviously needs to change. Gotta stay ahead of the herd and all that.

My new goals is:

:diamond: 10 hours of study before the end of September

This includes reading books, evaluating my own play and watching videos. This doesn't mean i get to slack off by chilling out and watching a few DC vids, I have to take notes on these and really study them.

So far i've done:

0 / 10 hours

Just played a quick NL50 session before my internet went off. Again played very well and managed to overcome my early deficit after a great bluffing spot for me was fucked up by the fact my opponent had obviously flopped trips. Brilliant But then made some good plays, including a triple barrel semibluff that I continued on the river. It was a nervy moment since I knew almost exactly what he had, I just had to hope his reg-like stats were mirrored by his capability to fold. He eventually tanked and folded.


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I'm still reading! Just so busy with my own stuff I couldn't reply, I've got a couple of hard ass coaches and they've given me loads to do. :tongue:

Also the fact I've barely ever responded, just read it. :P

Triple barrel semi bluff :f_cool: If he had called, would you have definitely been behind you think? Or was there a chance you could have still won at showdown? Or were your mad reading skills so good that you knew he definitely had you beat?

If you knew he had you beat but knew you could get him to fold with the right size of bet, then that's an epic play _cool:


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Wriggers
Joined: 21.07.2009

I'm fairly sure he had me beat, here's the hand and i'll go through it

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($29.93)
BB ($64.76)
UTG ($50)
Hero ($64.66)
CO ($37.53)
BTN ($7.03)

Dealt to Hero J♥ Q♥

fold, Hero raises to $1.50, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $1

FLOP ($3.25) 2♦ 7♥ 2♥

BB checks, Hero bets $2, BB raises to $6, Hero calls $4

TURN ($15.25) 2♦ 7♥ 2♥ T♣

BB checks, Hero bets $8.50, BB calls $8.50

RIVER ($32.25) 2♦ 7♥ 2♥ T♣ K♣

BB checks, Hero bets $20, BB folds

Hero shows J♥ Q♥

Hero wins $30.64

So I flop the flush draw and he check/raises me. Here I considered shoving and getting it in, as I think i've got 15 outs vs his range of 7x and 88-TT (JJ aswell but unlikely). When he check/calls the turn i'm pretty much putting him on 88/99/7x or a flushdraw. I bet again with the plan to barrel any heart (obviously), A, K, Q or J on the river. He calls, confirming my range analysis imo. He checks river again after i've missed. Great barrel card however, the K on the river allows me to bet a decent amount and him to fold all his 7x, 88 and 99, and obviously all his busted flushdraws. I was thinking really hard about the optimal bet size on this river, I think 1/2 pot allows him to call some of his 3rd pairs, but I thought making it a nice scary number, but also not costing me an awful lot in relation to the pot. So just over $20. He tank folded, so i'm pretty sure he had one of the 3rd pair type hands :)

EDIT: And damn right you got two hard ass coaches _cool:


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Nice evaluation :f_cool:

Being able to do that while playing is such a skill. Nice one.


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Wriggers
Joined: 21.07.2009

Haha thanks, don't worry, that skill will come with time

Checked my results today, down 4BI this week, EV says it should've been BE. But it's alright, i'm very happy with my play and am positive that the results will come. Since I haven't had time to play today, and am going to work tonight I spent an hour or so doing some reg analysis on HEM by sorting my sessions by "Table" and replaying all hands, taking notes of every player. This should gain me a bigger edge than I already have as I can gain some very specific reads on a lot of them. The player pool is so small that any reg is easily identifiable, i've only played 5k hands on NL50 and already have nearly 1k hands on some people.

Off to work now, 20 people booked in for 6pm, fml. Hopefully it will be an early finish so i can get in some hours of grinding tonight.

3 / 10 Hours study


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SilverSag
Joined: 12.07.2010

Well there are people who are reading your blog from time to time. :f_p: Nice to see you in NL50. I have serious problems with that limit. After a great start been seriously down for 2 months now and had to retreat to NL25.

If I would be playing that last hand of yours, then villain could have only one hand - K7 of hearts :f_biggrin:

Anyways, good luck at the tables! :f_cool:


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StaticMoth
Joined: 22.05.2009

Originally posted by SilverSag
If I would be playing that last hand of yours, then villain could have only one hand - K7 of hearts :f_biggrin:

1) Stop playing with hackers who can modify the rules/possible hand combinations
2) ???
3) $$$


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Wriggers
Joined: 21.07.2009

Seriously shit day today.

Last night one of our horses fell ill (With colic, to anyone who knows anything about horse illnesses). The vet came out and gave her a painkilling injection, usually this makes them comfortable whilst their stomach sorts itself out. We checked on her regularly through the night, and at about 2-3am we had to call the vet out again as the horse was thrashing around in her stable. He came out and gave her another injection, hoping it would be sorted by morning. After going to sleep at around 6am and getting up at 9am we went to check on her. It wasn't sorted, so out the vet came again.

After much deliberation we decided she had to be put down, so we walked her out to the field, but suddenly she started looking much better, we settled on giving her yet another injection and leaving her until 3pm to see if she improved. After this I drive around multiple places buying foodstuffs that will aid her digestion. But she gets worse, and by 2pm the owner of said horse (A girl who works full time for my Mum) says that she can't let her be like this anymore and we call the vets to come and put her down.

So he came, and he put her down, the whole place is in bits really. Very upsetting experience with all the staff in pieces about it, me and my Dad both very upset after we stayed up all night trying to deal with her. The most tragic thing is that we only got her a few months ago, and she was just a baby really, 4 years old, and always very friendly :(

The worst part was telling my brother when he got home from school, he's obviously really upset atm. My Mum, who's on holiday in Croatia atm, has now had her holiday ruined and feels incredibly guilty about not being here. Very tragic day, I always hate seeing an animal in such pain and discomfort. It's not even over yet, as we now have to deal with the people who are coming to collect the body, as due to quite recent laws we are no longer allowed to bury the body on our land.

Doubt it highly that i'll be playing anything tonight, really not in the right mindset after miniscule amounts of sleep and a very upsetting and traumatic day. Think i'm just going to chill out and watch some TV series/films to take my mind off it.

Sorry for the rambling


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really sorry to hear that, Alex. :(


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vonki
Joined: 18.03.2008
Wriggers
Joined: 21.07.2009

:heart: Thanks for the support :)

Not really feeling like doing anything atm but even though i'm absolutely knackered I can't go to bed this early

Hopefully things will seem better in the morning :) Really like that horse as well, one of the few that always seemed pleased to see you :( She'll be sorely missed.


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Wriggers
Joined: 21.07.2009

Quick hand before I start my session:

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.20(BB) Replayer
SB ($24.82)
Hero ($20)
UTG ($24.71)
UTG+1 ($53.64)
CO ($15.51)
BTN ($22.41)

Dealt to Hero K♠ Q♦

UTG raises to $0.70, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $0.60, Hero calls $0.50

FLOP ($2.10) 5♣ K♥ 5♦

SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets $1.05, SB calls $1.05, Hero calls $1.05

TURN ($5.25) 5♣ K♥ 5♦ 7♥

SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks

RIVER ($5.25) 5♣ K♥ 5♦ 7♥ A♥

SB checks, Hero bets $2, UTG calls $2, SB raises to $10.43, Hero ??????

SB wins $10.69

Both villains sort of regs. I bet the river small as thin value/blocking bet as it's very plausible that UTG has an A in his range here. Sorry for the quick explanation, just waiting for blinds on my tables


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EmanuelC16
Joined: 02.01.2010

1. Squeeze pre.
2. Bet turn probably. Midpairs now check back.


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Originally posted by Wriggers
Quick hand before I start my session:

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.20(BB) Replayer
SB ($24.82)
Hero ($20)
UTG ($24.71)
UTG+1 ($53.64)
CO ($15.51)
BTN ($22.41)

Dealt to Hero K♠ Q♦

UTG raises to $0.70, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $0.60, Hero calls $0.50

FLOP ($2.10) 5♣ K♥ 5♦

SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets $1.05, SB calls $1.05, Hero calls $1.05

TURN ($5.25) 5♣ K♥ 5♦ 7♥

SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks

RIVER ($5.25) 5♣ K♥ 5♦ 7♥ A♥

SB checks, Hero bets $2, UTG calls $2, SB raises to $10.43, Hero ??????

SB wins $10.69

Both villains sort of regs. I bet the river small as thin value/blocking bet as it's very plausible that UTG has an A in his range here. Sorry for the quick explanation, just waiting for blinds on my tables

I do get the idea behind a blockbet but I don't get it in this case.

With the A+BDF peeling you might not get many calls from worse (e.g., TT, KJ), plus the A is not really in your flop ch/c range (except if they think you call with AK there, some people would), and you def. don't get any folds from better. As for the fixing price part of a blocking bet, huh, ok, if you check UTG might bet $3 instead of your $2, but do you think UTG would bluff a lot in this board vs. 2 villains? What's UTG bluffing range? Because on his range there are all pockets (many with sd value there) + aces. So he might bluff 22-44 but not even many people would (even though maybe they should). So I think in this case if UTG bets you might even fold as he's checking behind lots of his middle pairs and there is not a ton of air in his range (except if he is on the looser side, opening suited connectors from UTG. Not many people do that too).

On the other hand, indeed the A is in the UTG range (that might have cbet that board w/ AQ/AJ/ATs).

If AK might be in your range, it might as well be in SB range (since he is vs. UTG), and he could play it just like that.

As far as I can see, that leaves us with the following options:

- He's not a good reg or is a fish and has no clue;
- He's on a huge slowplay w/ KK or 55 (possible but very unlikely);
- He had AK and hoped for a river bluff from either of you, or a value bet from UTG's AQ/AJ;
- Both your and UTG hands were face-up thanks to your blockbet and his call, making it easy to jam-bluff ($9.25 in the pot already, he jammed $10.43, not bad odds for a bluff at all). The question here is: what the hell did he check/call flop with? Can he turn his 88 into a bluff? A good player vs. a bet and a call should, as the 88 are certainly not good here, but your hand is clearly not strong enough to call a shove - especially on a paired board where he could even have played 77 like that.

I don't know. With other people's money I'd say it's the last option but with my own I'd rarely call that river without any decent history :f_biggrin:

But anyway, I suck at this game so all I said above is probably crap. :f_frown: (and in the event that I *do* call, villain would show 77 for sure. And in fact that might be a decent way to play 77 there, even though if he bets $3.5 on that river he would certainly get at least one caller. But this way he made $4 at least instead of the $3.5).


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Wriggers
Joined: 21.07.2009

Thanks for the opinions I think his range has to consist mainly of bluffs here as not even the regs on NL20 have the discipline to check the nuts on the river after the turn was checked through.

Anyway, I seem to have been so busy with various things i've forgotten which month we were/are in.

It hasn't been a good month in terms of results, I dropped half my BR on 888 before getting a stake and starting off not great in that. But despite this, i'm very happy with the way things are going. I'm playing well the vast majority of the time and i've cut down that dreaded spew to a bare minimum. All that's left is to run good when it matters Today could be a good start to that? Maybe I could bink a few thousand from a nice 13-fold accumulator. Well, we'll see :)

As for personal life, I had my interview for night shifts, should be getting the results from that soon. I've worked a load in the pub and for my Dad meaning that almost all of my time has been taken up with working one way or another Fortunately, one of these "jobs" is one I thoroughly enjoy in poker :) We've also had a fair bit of upset this month due to the horse falling ill and dying :(

One major improvement this month has been my mindset, I started with not checking my results, and it's worked a lot. I don't even think about whether i'm up or down at the end of a session any more. This is pleasing to me. I've also just started trying to get myself to play consistently well for longer periods of time by slowly increasing my session time. We'll see how this works out in the near future.

Apologies for the crap quality of this update. I'm in a bit of a rush, want to get down to the bookies to put some accumulators on before going to watch the mighty Reds in the pub on an illegal Arabic TV channel and then play FIFA with my mates for a few hours

EDIT: Oh, and i'm Gold status now. :f_mad:


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Wriggers
Joined: 21.07.2009

Fml gonna have to reformat computer. Running slower than a snail and have no hard disk space left. Time to finish off a project quickly and begin backing the majority of my hard drive up onto my External. It'll be a looonngggg process.


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Wriggers
Joined: 21.07.2009

Formatted and my computer is running nice and smoothly now _cool:

Just gotta wait for my 12gb HEM database to import now because I stupidly forgot to simply back the db up and restore it after I formatted it.


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