Choosing the right Poker Room for you!

Originally posted by deezer79
Cashed out of WSOP and Titan, waiting for the money to come through moneybookers before signing up somewhere else. From what I've read here and my desire to access PS' coaching etc, think I have it narrowed to either 888 or WH. Party sounded good but as I already tested the software without using PS code, would not be able to move up in status here.

Mostly play NL10 6-max and $5-10 SnGs. Traffic seems disappointing for SnG at 888 and WH. Leaning towards 888 cos I prefered WSOP's software. Any opinions to help me make the decision? How do both sites release the bonus and how much time would they give me? Hopefully they aren't the kind of sites which demand you earn it all in a month or you get nothing. Traffic is of main concern.

Hey deezer,

Ok, so if you want to move up status quickly, then I would say WH since you get 5 strategy points per $1 rake on there. For SnGs, the traffic isnt that amazing on iPoker, but the VIP system for WH isnt bad. You could expect ~40% rakeback from the FDB and probably another 20% through the VIP system.

For SnG traffic generally, I would recommend you try Betfair on Ongame. They also have a good VIP system and First Deposit Bonus for SnG players, though the field probably isnt as soft as 888 for example.

The WH FDB clears very quickly for SnG players, which is why it gives a high rakeback %, and the Betfair also clears fairly quickly, but is slower to clear than WH, yet the network has more traffic so you can always get a game.

So a coinflip imo. If you wasnt happy with the traffic at WH/Titan/iPoker, then I suggest Betfair at Ongame, since there will definitely be more SnG traffic there.

Hope that helps mate!

Thanks for the response DtotheC. Having real trouble making the decision tho. Checking them both out there seems to be pros and cons to either WH or 888. I feel the games would be softer in 888 and the cg traffic seems solid. SnG traffic is not so good. WH has a good range of SnGs but cg traffic seems shit. I prefer the software at 888 but I love SnGs, I'm torn!

What you said about rakeback and bonuses at WH is certainly a strong arguement that way. Would be nice to move up in status here quickly but it's not a priority. As for Ongame, I have played at Betfair before so would not be able to use PS' code for strategy points. Betfair also put me through such a downswing that I had to leave and rebuild my bankroll elsewhere. Hellish experience there.

Originally posted by DtotheC

Originally posted by StingerMk
Hi strategist , i want to deposit some$ and start play nl cash games.
But I think between partypoker and ongame network?
What is your experience between this two networks?
Players level on this limit...etc...

1. Which game type you play? (No limit? Sit & Go? MTT? PLO, Fixed Limit, Other?)
-Nolimit cash game

2. Which limit do you play? (example: NL25, SNG $11, FL .50/1)
-Nl10 ; Nl25

3. Short handed or full ring tables, or even Heads-Up?
-Short handed

4. How much do you play? (e.g. I play 3 hours a week, or I generate $1000 rake/month)
-I play 15-20 hours a week

Hey Stinger,

I would suggest that you try 888 out for size. Really nice software, very soft tables and strong traffic. You wont get a huge amount back in terms of rakeback, but you will still make a lot of profit from the soft tables.

Party is also an option, but again you wont get much rakeback through their VIP system and their tables are not as soft as 888.

Thank you DtotheC for your answer.

Hi guys

1. NL Texas Holdem SnG and MTT

2. Micro, no more then ~$3.00

3. full ring

4. I generate 500 SP per month

Hi everybody ,
I come from the .it with a good field and i want to change room.
1. Which game type you play? (No limit? Sit & Go? MTT? PLO, Fixed Limit, Other?)
SNG
2. Which limit do you play? (example: NL25, SNG $11, FL .50/1)
3-5$ FR turbo and normal

if there is traffic , i can play 20x without any difficulties.

hey

i rake about 2000$ per month playing full ring turbo sngs.I play on ongame but there are going to be many changes after 24 november.Do you have any other suggestion to make.I would like to have good rakeback + nice traffic

Originally posted by DtotheC
Hey Zero,

Yeah the WH VIP system has the potential to go up to a huge 75% rakeback (for SnG players, sadly less for cash game). But as VIP systems go, it is still fairly rewarding for low/mid volume players. More often than not though, if rakeback if your priority and your rake isnt enough to make a VIP system work for you, then I would suggest somewhere like PKR where you get 30% flat rakeback each month. Or, as I often say, forget rakeback and go for the softest tables you can find and increase your win-rate!

The reason for the obvious difference between Stars and everywhere else (in terms of generating rake) is that Stars have stuck to the Dealt Rake model, whereas everyone else has pretty much moved over to Weighted Contributed. For them it makes sense, as there are a lot of grinders on Stars who would be pretty annoyed if they suddenly had a load of attributed rake lost each month.

Tbh, the only real place where there is decent FL traffic is Stars atm. They recently reduced the rake on iPoker for FL, but the traffic there isnt really enough to support a real grind. You should find some tables at both Party and 888, but it wont be many I am afraid.

Thanks for another kind answer! Cant see how wh's points to cash can compare to stars actually, but its not important right now. I gonna play at wh for my gold status and as i said i have won some there. In the little fl-traffic time i can paly at stars or lose more money somewhere trying to learn plo;). I also have seen high fl tables at wh. Problem is getting there skill and br vise.

Wishes
ZD

Originally posted by adasko99
Hi guys

1. NL Texas Holdem SnG and MTT

2. Micro, no more then ~$3.00

3. full ring

4. I generate 500 SP per month

Hey Adasko,

With your volume, you have a lot of options

For soft competition, I would say go to 888 or PKR. PKR will give you 30% flat rakeback, which is more than you would get from a VIP system elsewhere.

You can also play at Party or iPoker, but you wont get as much rakeback and the tables arent as soft, though the traffic is better.

Overall, I think PKR would be best. Software is a bit slow, but the 30% flat rakeback and the super soft competition makes it the most +EV choice for you.

Originally posted by xxCaRpeDiEM9xx
Hi everybody ,
I come from the .it with a good field and i want to change room.
1. Which game type you play? (No limit? Sit & Go? MTT? PLO, Fixed Limit, Other?)
SNG
2. Which limit do you play? (example: NL25, SNG $11, FL .50/1)
3-5$ FR turbo and normal

if there is traffic , i can play 20x without any difficulties.

I would go for GDPoker, which part of the Ongame network. You should get a pretty good return from their VIP system, plus the traffic isnt bad, although im not sure about 20 tables!

For 20 tables, you would need to go to Stars. Normally I would point out that Stars tables are tough, but given the ring fencing around Italy, I think that it shouldnt be too bad.

Party doesnt have much Italian SnG traffic, so I doubt they would be suitable.

Originally posted by ulairiiii
hey

i rake about 2000$ per month playing full ring turbo sngs.I play on ongame but there are going to be many changes after 24 november.Do you have any other suggestion to make.I would like to have good rakeback + nice traffic

Hey Ulairiiii,

Quite a tricky one, since not many networks outside of Ongame can realistically and consistently support that volume of SnG play.

I think that you have 3 realistic options:

- 888 - Traffic isnt amazing for SnGs, so the amount you rake will drop. Your win-rate will go up however, so it may mean more profit at the end of the day. You would also get ~20% from their VIP system and about another 20% whilst clearing the deposit bonus.

- iPoker/WH/Titan - Traffic is better than 888 and you would get more from the VIP system (about 35%), plus the deposit bonus clears pretty quickly at both Titan and William Hill, adding another 40% for the first month. Tables wont be as soft as 888, but probably equal to or softer than Ongame.

- Stars - By far the most traffic of all the networks. You wont struggle to find a game here. You would also get a pretty good return from their VIP system and First Deposit Bonuses, however the tables on Stars are the toughest anywhere, so you could expect a drop in average win-rate.

Hope you find this useful mate!

Originally posted by deezer79
Thanks for the response DtotheC. Having real trouble making the decision tho. Checking them both out there seems to be pros and cons to either WH or 888. I feel the games would be softer in 888 and the cg traffic seems solid. SnG traffic is not so good. WH has a good range of SnGs but cg traffic seems shit. I prefer the software at 888 but I love SnGs, I'm torn!

What you said about rakeback and bonuses at WH is certainly a strong arguement that way. Would be nice to move up in status here quickly but it's not a priority. As for Ongame, I have played at Betfair before so would not be able to use PS' code for strategy points. Betfair also put me through such a downswing that I had to leave and rebuild my bankroll elsewhere. Hellish experience there.

So then I suggest you try William Hill. Between the VIP system and high value first deposit bonus, you will get a very nice rakeback % in that first month, after which you can just leave again (a bit richer) without any concerns.

Hello everyone,

1. Which game type you play? (No limit,Sit & Go...rarely MTT)

2. Which limit do you play? (SNG 3$-3.50$ and 6$-7$)

3. Almost always short handed.

4. How much do you play? (I play somewhere around 10+ hours a week)

I think i want to go to party poker but i saw somewhere that they have HUGE rake in low levels,something like 20% (for 3$ and 6$ buy-in)

Plz advise and analyse why i should play where you suggest (no Pokerstars and Poker770).

Originally posted by PAOKHAWK
Hello everyone,

1. Which game type you play? (No limit,Sit & Go...rarely MTT)

2. Which limit do you play? (SNG 3$-3.50$ and 6$-7$)

3. Almost always short handed.

4. How much do you play? (I play somewhere around 10+ hours a week)

I think i want to go to party poker but i saw somewhere that they have HUGE rake in low levels,something like 20% (for 3$ and 6$ buy-in)

Plz advise and analyse why i should play where you suggest (no Pokerstars and Poker770).

I've recently been dabbling (wanted a break from HUSNG and 6max cash) in the turbo 6max SNG ($2.50+0.30 and $5+0.50) on 888. You only need to finish in the top 3 to be ITM although 3rd pays just a smidge more than the buy-in. As plenty have already said, the comp is soft with most players having no idea how to play the later levels............well.............all levels - too loose at the beginning and too tight when the blinds are high. My sample size is small (it may be that I am yet to feel the sting of variance) but my sentiments seem to echo others in this thread.

Originally posted by DtotheC

Originally posted by adasko99
Hi guys

1. NL Texas Holdem SnG and MTT

2. Micro, no more then ~$3.00

3. full ring

4. I generate 500 SP per month

Hey Adasko,

With your volume, you have a lot of options

For soft competition, I would say go to 888 or PKR. PKR will give you 30% flat rakeback, which is more than you would get from a VIP system elsewhere.

You can also play at Party or iPoker, but you wont get as much rakeback and the tables arent as soft, though the traffic is better.

Overall, I think PKR would be best. Software is a bit slow, but the 30% flat rakeback and the super soft competition makes it the most +EV choice for you.

Thanks for info
I'm currently at PokerStars and Party Poker.
Party Poker annoys me cuz of insane blind structures at micro stakes and fauly software.
I really like PokerStars, because of 24/7 traffic ( I play mostly mornings [i'm from UK] ) but there's no rakeback and VIP rewards are just silly.
I was looking for a room with fishes and good rakeback, thanks a lot, i will defo check PKR out.
Hows is traffic at PKR?

1. Which game type you play? PLO

2. Which limit do you play? PLO20-PLO50

3. Short handed or full ring tables, or even Heads-Up? SH

4. How much do you play? (e.g. I play 3 hours a week, or I generate $1000 rake/month) I try to play atleast a couple of hours everyday.

I currently play untracked on Ipoker due to good rb deal (50%), however I absolutely hate the software and struggle to get a decent volume in every month since I feel that it's "too slow". I played some on Stars last month (untracked) and had no problem putting in 20k hands. (No rakeback, though I think I'll have no problem maintaining platinum which will probably generate like 25%?)I feel like some sort of rakeback is a must since I'm not a solid winner just yet. Anyone got some tips on what site I could try out? Non-ipoker :).

Originally posted by DtotheC

Originally posted by xxCaRpeDiEM9xx
Hi everybody ,
I come from the .it with a good field and i want to change room.
1. Which game type you play? (No limit? Sit & Go? MTT? PLO, Fixed Limit, Other?)
SNG
2. Which limit do you play? (example: NL25, SNG $11, FL .50/1)
3-5$ FR turbo and normal

if there is traffic , i can play 20x without any difficulties.

I would go for GDPoker, which part of the Ongame network. You should get a pretty good return from their VIP system, plus the traffic isnt bad, although im not sure about 20 tables!

For 20 tables, you would need to go to Stars. Normally I would point out that Stars tables are tough, but given the ring fencing around Italy, I think that it shouldnt be too bad.

Party doesnt have much Italian SnG traffic, so I doubt they would be suitable.

I was thinking to some .com rooms...

Which poker room would you suggest for 6-handed MTTs. Or multi-table 6-handed sngs? please no stars.

hello,

in short: i have just 100E of bankroll so i am thinking to play 2-3h per day (~20h on weekends) s&g, multitable s&g and tournaments.
i am considering to deposit to everest poker couse i asked support and they will try to get me a new deposit offer. all in all - is it fishy (trafic and other stuff) enought?
thanks.

P.S. sory for my bad english.

1. Which game type you play? (No limit? Sit & Go? MTT? PLO, Fixed Limit, Other?)

No Limit.

2. Which limit do you play? (example: NL25, SNG $11, FL .50/1)

NL10

3. Short handed or full ring tables, or even Heads-Up?

SH

4. How much do you play? (e.g. I play 3 hours a week, or I generate $1000 rake/month)

I play ~1h a day, generate ~115$ rake on ongame (not linked to PS.com :()

Most important- flat rakeback and soft competition. I was concerning PKR but there is no HUD allowed there. Is it worth playing there without HUD?
What other offers?

Thanks for advance.

Hi giancardi

About PKR, HUD are allowed; they are just not well supported. There is PokerOfiicer which has been made especially for PKR but I find it way too basic for my liking and not enough options to configure. I normally use HEM but it is limited and a bit buggy. I know there is a plugin for HEM but I haven't got around to use it.

here is the link for more details about the plugin:

HMP - HUD Meets PKR 1.15.08

Best regards

Thazar