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_Anonymous_
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21.11.2011, 00:56

Hi guys!
I have recently started playing poker and my ambitions were/are to reach FR nl100 or higher in 1 - 2 years, by playing about 50-100 hours a month.

The one thing that has started to discourage me is the increasing rake for the last years.

Everyone who is saying that he/she beats the game for 3bb/100 (going AVERAGE winner here) do you win that, INCLUDING rakeback?

I mean, the core question I would like to know the answer to is:
1) Assuming I could be an average okayer (winner), could I win those ~3-4bb/100 (including RB) in long term fr nl100 and higher??

Please understand me, I am trying to decide whether to invest huge amounts of my time for a long term goal, that may actually be unachievable, because of reasons I cannot direct°ly effect (rake().

P.S. Just to be clear my 1-2 year goal is making 3000+ dollars a month by playing 100 hours a month.


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Maniatrix
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Joined: 01.11.2008
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21.11.2011, 01:42

If you break even you will get that with rakeback. Put in an insane volume and you could probably live on the rakeback.

Rake is evil: 7.5 bb/100 at nl100


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jimmiko
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Joined: 27.08.2011
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21.11.2011, 01:55

At poker's actual state, you can expect 2bb/100 at nl100 fr, and 3bb/100 at sh. That 3K is not too realistic at my eyes:S Only if you play higher, and sh. And 3 hours a day is not enough I think. To become better, you shouldn't just play, but learn, look into your statistics, share thoughts with other players on your level, etc. Getting better is important, because the average gets better, less and less fish, more regs. You say you want to make 3K a month 1-2 years later. In 2014, I'm not very sure, if poker will be priftable at all for anybody. It's not an industry, which you can count on. I'm speaking about politics, and that you can't expect much more gamblers to start playing poker. Those, who didn't want to play poker the last 5 years, won't play the next 5 either. Of course, there are, but all of them wants to be pros, they don't want gambling. They either end their carreer in weeks, or become decent players, who you won't have edge because of the rake!


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kenthmp
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Joined: 19.04.2009
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23.11.2011, 05:37

Hmmm... Let's trade forex instead?


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Shevtshenko
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23.11.2011, 12:33

Originally posted by jimmiko
At poker's actual state, you can expect 2bb/100 at nl100 fr, and 3bb/100 at sh. That 3K is not too realistic at my eyes:S Only if you play higher, and sh. And 3 hours a day is not enough I think.

This made me certain that you're not playing nl100.

@OP:

nl100 is beatable for +10bb's/100 hands atm, NOT including rakeback. Averaging 3k$ in month is for sure not just possible but also likely for a fulltime player on nl100 today.

and what comes to ppl talking about win rates, it's pretty much always a win rate without rakeback.


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fuzzyfish
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23.11.2011, 13:28

Originally posted by Maniatrix
If you break even you will get that with rakeback. Put in an insane volume and you could probably live on the rakeback.

Rake is evil: 7.5 bb/100 at nl100

Hmm, my average is 10 bb/100, where do you play and whats your VPIP?


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