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erob60
Joined: 08.03.2007

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[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/pfr/af/wts/ats/foldbb/w$sd;BB$116.11:///////;MP3$144.69:///////;CO$183.51:///////;Hero$98:///////;[/tg]
0.50/1 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.8 by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4♠, 4♣
MP2 folds, MP3 calls $1.00, CO calls $1.00, BU folds, Hero calls $0.50, BB raises to $5.00, MP3 calls $4.00, CO calls $4.00, Hero calls $4.00.

Flop: ($20.00) 8♦, 4♥, 6♠ (4 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $14, MP3 raises to $28.00, CO folds, Hero calls $28.00, BB calls $14.00.

Turn: ($104.00) 2♠ (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP3 checks.

River: ($104.00) 3♦ (3 players)
Hero bets $65 (All-In), 2 folds.

Final Pot: $169.00

Bet turn?
Check river?
Reraise flop?


10 replies
CountSalle
Joined: 22.04.2007

i thing for that nice hit there is a 3-bet, of course

and than you never have to thing about the turn,

if you only call the flop, i think you have to protect on turn.

thats it


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

problem with such a connected flop is of course if you check/call to make a c/r on any turn card, the turn card can scare so many villains into thinking you had a draw yourself and just completed. so i prefer a bet/reraise on this flop, or possibly a c/r (where you get value from aggressively played draws).


if you are sure he an opponent is going to bet then i would go for a checraise with the intention of going all in for 100bb otherwise i would lead and try to steak it in from the flop in this multiway pot . by calling there you give bb good odds to call with any thing like a draw ... trying to steak it in its ok


think I would push the turn and not let them have a free card , but would have expected one of the to bet

preflop would fold to BB bet


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

folding preflop big leak here.

he's calling 4$ for 20$, 5:1.. 7.5:1 odds of flopping a set, so he only needs to extract something like 10$ whenever he hits on average to make it a worthwhile call...


Originally posted by chenny8888
folding preflop big leak here.

he's calling 4$ for 20$, 5:1.. 7.5:1 odds of flopping a set, so he only needs to extract something like 10$ whenever he hits on average to make it a worthwhile call...

5:1 is the odds you need , but you have put in $5 to win $15 , the fact that they are all chipped up helps with the implied odds

The probability of hitting a "set" on the flop is 10.8% or 8.26 to 1 against.


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

err what? you're still saying fold pre?

it's 4 for 20, he already has a total of 1$ in the pot, it's 4 to call..

there's also a chance of hitting quads, etc. adding to that.

my calculation just goes to show how easy a call it is preflop; you don't even need to stack them every time you flop a set to make it mass +++++EV


Originally posted by chenny8888
err what? you're still saying fold pre?

there's also a chance of hitting quads, etc. adding to that.

The probability of hitting quads on the flop, when holding a pocket pair, is 0.25% (about 399 to 1 against).


Push flop, coldcalling c/r looks extremely suspicious anyway and you do not want to see a 5 or 7 on turn.


TribunCaesar
Joined: 29.04.2007

just call preflop. raise flop/bet turn/shove river......valuepoker ftw!

Tribun