Still learning the ropes, years later...

Originally posted by Lazza61
Best adage "Play poker with poker players, not gamblers

not the best i say.

in a table of 10, you would rather play against 9 poker pros than 9 gamblers?

any profiting player would immediately agree to play against 9 gamblers SLASH donks/fishes in all 24 tables!! ahahaha

A good quote for poker players:

"Serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can.
And the wisdom to fold when you know you're beat."

♦

I only used to play 1 table at a time and force to play cards that I thought were good looking ♦ . But just recently I tried multi-tabling (about a month ago) and found the benefits; play the good cards, drop the trash. I am a bit used to 4 tables now but when :

Randy Lew set a world record about multitabling, I though it was grand! Hmmm why not try it?

So I made the plan to increase my 4 tables to 6! tables. ♦

On that fateful night I fired up 6 tables,

mrschill comes by and sees me clicking on 6 tables and asks, don't you get confused with those so many tables?
(by the way, mrschill is also a poker affectionado albeit only on the Zynga territory, last week she broke 100M there!!!)

Of course I replied with Nanonoko confidence, "No"

10 minutes into the games I got this hand :

0.01/0.02 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy.com Elephant 0.106 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BB with K♥, T♣
MP3 raises to $0.06, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.04.

Flop: ($0.13) J♠, T♦, 4♣ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets $0.08, Hero calls $0.08.

hmmm got something there, some possibility for straight too,
then click, click click other tables

Turn: ($0.29) A♠ (2 players)

whoa, a straight good good good!
then click, click click other tables

Hero bets $0.14, MP3 calls $0.14.

River: ($0.57) 7♥ (2 players)

blank, eh no problem, if villain got a straight, it's just gonna be split, let's get the chips in!
then click, click click other tables

Hero bets $0.41, MP3 raises to $1.81 (All-In), Hero calls $1.26 (All-In), MP3 gets uncalled bet back (All-In).

Final Pot: $3.91

Results follow
MP3 shows a straight, ace high (K Q :spade:)

yeah as expected villain got a straight, but from the corner of my eye I saw something:

Y U HV "Q"???

T-J-Q-K-A to make a straight, me no have Q???



EEEEEEIIIIIIII!!!!!!

Hero shows (Kh Tc)
MP3 wins with a straight, ace high (Kc Qs)
Immediately closed 2 tables! BYE BYE multitabling 6 tables! Good thing mrschill was'nt around when that happened.
♦ ♦ ♦

you're funny! ahahaha

nice pics!! ahahaha

if it helps, i'm used to multi-tabling 20 MTTs at a time before. woooooottt!!

Originally posted by YinYangS
you're funny! ahahaha

nice pics!! ahahaha

if it helps, i'm used to multi-tabling 20 MTTs at a time before. woooooottt!!

20MTTs?!!! no thank you, my winrate that way probably be 0/20

One of my leaks:

Feb 1 to Feb 6 playing NL2 ------> BR+ $10
Feb 7 play 1 session NL4 ------> BR - $15

Feb 8:

I promise to play NL2 only till end of the month...
I promise to play NL2 only till end of the month...
I promise to play NL2 only till end of the month...
I promise to play NL2 only till end of the month...
I promise to play NL2 only till end of the month...
I promise to play NL2 only till end of the month...
♦ ♦ ♦

bro, we all know that promises are meant to be broken.

hhmmmmmmm

how about try,

"I vow to....."

No one's said yet that vows are meant to be broken right? or wrong?

ahahahahaha

Originally posted by YinYangS
bro, we all know that promises are meant to be broken.

hhmmmmmmm

how about try,

"I vow to....."

No one's said yet that vows are meant to be broken right? or wrong?

ahahahahaha

Unfortunately:

Kim Kardashian and Kris Humphries----> Broken vows
Katy Perry and Russell Brand -----------> Broken vows
........
........

hmmmm, anyway, ok ok:

On my honor, I will do my best, and "Vow" to play only NL2 till the end of the month. ♦

Ha ha .. Great read fruitninja .. Even if the poker is not going so well you're blog is great.. The multi tabling post is hilarious and too true..

Keep doing it for the family guys, no one else knows what we go through just to play poker ;)..

Originally posted by D4NNYP
Ha ha .. Great read fruitninja .. Even if the poker is not going so well you're blog is great.. The multi tabling post is hilarious and too true..

Keep doing it for the family guys, no one else knows what we go through just to play poker ;)..

Hi D4NNYP,

Thanks! Yeah family guys must strike a certain balance for their poker to blend into the family. Good thing mrschill plays some poker too, at least she has an idea what's goin on. But still I'd be cautious:

Chill playing $1 MTT and then mrschill says, dinner time. But MTT is almost ITM, so what to do, can you justify? Hahaha, to avoid complications, I just never fire tourneys before dinner time anymore! ♦

Family time yeah!!!!

Spent time with the family in the beach last weekend. It was greeeeaaaattt!

Azure Resort Anilao Batangas. a bit secluded but nice and quiet.

ARRIVAL AREA

AZURE RESORT

Brought my laptop and was already imagining, NL2 by the beach with a beer in hand, would be awesome, notice the beer in the table in the right?

But alas they tell me, sorry, no internet connection by the rooms....and I say

anyway enjoyed it just the same, great scenery, very good food, terrific snorkeling grounds, a billiard table in the attic and lotsa beer etc etc....

MY SON

ME AND MY SON KAYAKING

THE BAY (Sombrero Island in the horizon)

SUNSET

An important lesson in snorkling:

If you plunged and suddendly the fish disappear! and the water becomes murky!
check your goggles, it's still on your forehead (based on a true story hahaha ♦ ♦ ♦ )

HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND EVERYONE!

i don't see you at your pics! come on! post Mr. Chill!! ahahaha ♦

Originally posted by YinYangS
i don't see you at your pics! come on! post Mr. Chill!! ahahaha ♦

Hi Glen,

I'm shy.....hahahaha.

The image which say's OKAY is a very good approximation of me hahahaha.

Originally posted by FruitNinja
Hi Glen,

I'm shy.....hahahaha.

The image which say's OKAY is a very good approximation of me hahahaha.

hhmmm, OKAY! ahahaha

Updates:

[x] Set up HUD-Elephant and starting to learn to use in play
[x] Started to post in the hand evaluation forum--> very helpful

Ok, some results from the "Vow". Never played this much NL2 before!

THE GRAPH (FEB 2012):

Hmmmm, a roller coaster ride....at least it is not diving down....

STATS:

Of course VPIP and PFR, should be lower but the other stuff. don't know what to make of it....

Also what does the ff mean?

Hand range flop = 37%
Hand range showdown = 7.7%

Any suggestions/comments/help will be appreciated. Thanks!

Hey there FruitNinja a fellow newbie Nice to see some one other trying to get out of the cursed NL2 I've started my blog only this month (called We have liftoff)

Now about the stats ♦ hope you're playing full ring because I will give my evaluation about them based on full ring game ♦ VPIP way too big. You need to fold a lot more I'm currently playing 15% VPIP and it works quite fine I should be playing a bit more but I players are too loose at NL2 players to play looser PFR is also too low looking at your VPIP. If it was something like 40% then it would be maniacish styly which is not that good either but my point is that your VPIP must be very close to your PFR. Big gap in this will result in a lot of because you will be limping weak hands and folding them post flop.

Your 4bet is ok. Could be 1-2% bigger but don't think too much about it. Another leak you have is limp folding a lot. 50% is way too much idealy you only want to limp PP IP or Axs hands in late pos when there are couple limpers in the pot already.

One more thing is your low showdown range 7.7% of hands is not enough. This means that you are playing a lot of weak hands and play most of your hands in a weak way.

If you are playing SH I would advise you to go to FL tables. I have played SH at start my self but without enough experience you just will not make any money there.

If you are playing FL with there stats the main thing you need to do is to improve you hand range and shrink it a lot to at least 20% VPIP and ~17% PFR at start. Best way to do this is to understand the way ahead way behind and domination definitions. Knowing that hands like KQ can loose you a lot of money will turn your downhill slide into growing giraffe.

Best of luck at the tables. Hope to chat with you soon again and discuss more about you thought process and maybe help each other to escape from the NL2

Originally posted by rap1dw1n3r
Hey there FruitNinja a fellow newbie Nice to see some one other trying to get out of the cursed NL2 I've started my blog only this month (called We have liftoff)

Hello rap1dw1n3r, thanks for giving some inputs. How to get out of NL2 is the challenge for the year ♦

This stats was on SH, may try some FL too.

Now about the stats ♦ hope you're playing full ring because I will give my evaluation about them based on full ring game ♦ VPIP way too big. You need to fold a lot more I'm currently playing 15% VPIP and it works quite fine I should be playing a bit more but I players are too loose at NL2 players to play looser PFR is also too low looking at your VPIP. If it was something like 40% then it would be maniacish styly which is not that good either but my point is that your VPIP must be very close to your PFR. Big gap in this will result in a lot of because you will be limping weak hands and folding them post flop.

Your 4bet is ok. Could be 1-2% bigger but don't think too much about it. Another leak you have is limp folding a lot. 50% is way too much idealy you only want to limp PP IP or Axs hands in late pos when there are couple limpers in the pot already.

Yeah I begin to notice this now, limp then fold, or limp then call then fold

One more thing is your low showdown range 7.7% of hands is not enough. This means that you are playing a lot of weak hands and play most of your hands in a weak way.

If you are playing SH I would advise you to go to FL tables. I have played SH at start my self but without enough experience you just will not make any money there.

If you are playing FL with there stats the main thing you need to do is to improve you hand range and shrink it a lot to at least 20% VPIP and ~17% PFR at start. Best way to do this is to understand the way ahead way behind and domination definitions. Knowing that hands like KQ can loose you a lot of money will turn your downhill slide into growing giraffe.

All KQ looks good to me hahaha. Ok will cut some of these KQ's.
OK will try again 20% VPIP and ~17% (last time I did try to be a TAG, waited some time and KK appears, but KK run to A on board flop, ♦ then after waiting some more time another KK comes and flop a set, but villain completes straight at river ! , switch immeadiately to LAG LOL ♦ )

Best of luck at the tables. Hope to chat with you soon again and discuss more about you thought process and maybe help each other to escape from the NL2

OK thanks and GL and GG!

Well since you're playing SH you should focus on something like 30%VPIP and 27% PFR but if you will still loose money then go to FL tables to build up your game and BR

Originally posted by rap1dw1n3r
Well since you're playing SH you should focus on something like 30%VPIP and 27% PFR but if you will still loose money then go to FL tables to build up your game and BR

Hmmmm, a bit looser at SH, ok got it. Thanks.

wow you 1 table and played almost 20k hands in febuary? wish i had the time and discpline to sit infront of the laptop like that