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[Closed] quAAds_how to suck out more?

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JohnTheGreatest
Joined: 28.01.2010

No Limit Holdem Tournament
FullTiltPoker
8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
$1,000 Guarantee (Rebuy)

Stacks:
UTG (450)
UTG+1 (2,010)
MP1 (795)
Hero (MP2) (2,820)
CO (3,570)
BTN (1,320)
SB (3,210)
BB (1,275)

Blinds: 20/40

Pre-Flop: (60, 8 players) Hero is MP2 A♠ A♥
1 fold, UTG+1 calls 40, 1 fold, Hero raises to 120, 2 folds, SB calls 100, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls 80

Flop: A♣ T♦ 6♥ (400, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets 160, SB calls 160, UTG+1 folds

Turn: 7♣ (720, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets 560, SB calls 560

River: A♦ (1,840, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets 1,840, SB folds

1) well, maybe I fired too much on the river, but this player was really aggressive and played like maniac - every hand of the tournament.

and yeah - raise size on the flop is too small I guess.

2) wanted suck out more...should bet ~3/4 pot size on the river?


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Preflop raise should be bigger, ~160. In dry flop half pot is good. In river bet to 900-1000 would be my choice. Anyway SB rarely has anything better than Tx here so three street value is quite rare result :)


alenstrat
Joined: 13.03.2009

Yeah you only blew it preflop. If he's a fish/calls everything as you say he would have called a proper 5x raise instead of that mini 3x raise you made. And you would have gotten more value in the following streets.


TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

is this in rebuy period? if it is raise bigger preflop maybe even shove to look weaker, then bet 3/5 pot on flop then depending on effective stacks and board texture u should bet on turn amount that will let u when u got called to have like max 1/3 pot size stack left so u can shove on river

as played

i bet 200-250 on flop, then on that turn ~500 or 1+1/2pot~900, and if i bet 500 ill bet 3/5 pot on most river if board pairs i'll shove, if i over bet pot on turn and got called i shove nay river

as u played, if u dont over bet turn, 1k on river is good size or shove, that pot size bet is screaming strength (shove looks weaker and u r giving him excuse to call, cos if he is calling full pot on river he is also calling an over bet shove on river)


pils3
Joined: 10.01.2007

First of all: Betting on all streets is fine. Take all the value you can get, but in general you block any A so that you cant expect to get too much action anyway.

As said before, your raise size preflop and on the flop should be bigger. (150-250 pre, ~3/4 pot on flop). Your turn bet should be around 1/2 pot, on the river you can place a small value bet or even shove and hope, your opponent levels himself into a call.

This adverts to a regular freeze out. In a rebuy your betsizes should be bigger, such as potsize bet on flop, maybe even pot turn etc.