originally posted by DVL321
UTG+2 (t2210)
UTG (t2685)
Hero (SB) (t1870)
MP2 (t1495)
MP1 (t1940)
Button (t2710)
BB (t2320)
CO (t655)
MP3 (t2185)
UTG+1 (t1930)
Hero's M: 20.78
Preflop: Hero is SB with A
, 8
UTG calls t60, 4 folds, MP3 calls t60, 2 folds, Hero calls t30, BB checks
Flop: (t240) 8
, 6, 8
(4 players)
Hero bets t150, 2 folds, MP3 calls t150
Turn: (t540) 10 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets t300, Hero calls t300
River: (t1140) 10 (2 players)
Hero bets t720, 1 fold
Total pot: t1860
Villain is "usc118891", german reg (propably ps.de), some small leaks but generally pretty solid. Early he just plays the standard-style 95% of the regs play.
Guess flop is standard, though I could also c/c or c/r. But usually in those step 6s there are some bad players who lucked themselves through the steps and I wanna get some value out of a 6, a draw or a pp.
Unfortunately the reg calls and I'm really afraid of 66 here, especially cause he should know I usually have the 8. Maybe he also peels some pps or limped 87s or 98s preflop, but if I 2nd barrel the turn I propably isolate myself against 66. He bets and I was really close to folding there cause I usually see him checking behind his pps and 8x. Anyway, I decided that folding is too weak and called, willing to c/f the river if he pushes a blank.
Anyone who finds a c/f or a b/f or even a b/c here?
On the river I think it's a must-donk cause he usually checks 66 behind though it's very obvious what I have. My 720 r definetely too much, but how much is a good amount here? Half pot? 1/3 pot?
TheRebuz
wow u view is so black... 66 comon
he can also float with air to take shot on pot if u check turn.
if u were M3 and u have 89-87, 8x would u bet turn?? no way u can fold on turn, never. i like to check raise here couse he got might have 57,97, 9T, 67 or 8x, kind of hand, pair with gutshot and i dont want him to out draw me so imo c/r is better play on turn than c/c (not even thinking of folding here)
river why bet??? no worse hand is calling, but worse hand might try to bluf u, so river check for bluff induce and call any bet
btw u say that he got to know that u usualy have 8 there, why he should put u on 8 there?? i can't see it... thats nice board to bluf, couse there r not any real draws, just 1 str8 draw 97, and pot is no big so no1 with overcards JT KJ etc, will fight for that pot couse u MIGHT have 8 there. so in my eyes ur range is prety wide in this spot -> (with backdor flush draw nad gutshot) 6x, 22-JJ, 57, 97, 9Ts, 8x
and why u put him on 66?? u have some big read on him???
Dvl321
Cashgame player? 
Seriously, I know how sng-regs (at leat at pp) play and they never ever float such a board in a 4-way-pot. He'd always fold gutshots on the flop (as long as there's no additional fd possible). He never limps behind pre there with 57 and he always folds 67 on flop (usually even preflop). Guess he also folds 97 pre (btw, 97 is the only draw he maybe could have had, but 97 made a str8 on the turn, no good idea to c/r him).
So his turnbettingrange consists of 66, 79s, 87s, 89s. If i c/r him here I isolate myself against better hands, cause he'd always fold 87 and 89.
If I check the river no worse hand is ever betting there, he'll cb 66 and 79 and he'll propably bet 87, 89. So if I wanna get value out of 66 and 79 I definetely have to bet there (though as I said it's very obvious what I have).
viewer88
I think you can add 99 and maybe TT to his flop range, don't know if he raises TT here with one limper infront (if limper is a fish I'm less likely to include TT in his range because he'll more often raise preflop).
I think flop and turn are good, river is a bit confusing because I have no idea about how to get value from worse hands. I bet/call something small, like 350-400, I also consider c/c an option if he has "fancy play syndrom".
rhinoneil
I can see villain playing small pp the same way, 44, 55 etc, only other hands you can put him on is 79 or 8x but guess a reg would fold this pre flop maybe limp if suited?
Think i bet turn and c/c river but your line looks ok to me.
Dont think you can put villain on 10 so as played i like the size of your river bet, at worst you are chopping, at best he calls worse hand.
Unam
Hi Dvl,
I have no different view on the hand, IMHO USC could be trapping pre with bigger pockets and I think he is capable of sometimes bluffing these flops, but IMHO not that likely against you. And he would never bluff on the river again.
So I would say NH and good thoughts.