[Closed] NL25 trips vs TAG

i call

Originally posted by chenny8888
i call

if villain is really TAG then I would fold this one of course! With what would TAG player bet you all in? J7?
I think you are right matovicmilos, villain is holding FH or better J that's almost for sure! I would'n risk all my chips on this kind of hand vs TAG, no way...

Well it seemed that he isnt realy scarred of jack coming, and why would he push if he didnt have me beat. i obviosly "told" him that i have jack, so a bluff would be ridicolous imo

low-limit TAGs are not so solid.

they are paying you off with any pocketpair, down to TT.

with 2:1 odds, i think you're priced right to call.

also, he just completed pre, what's to say he ISN'T holding a worse jack?

sry, i can't fold this, even on such a drawless board

Me neither.
And by 3-betting you he also told you he was gonna push any river. So why call the 3-bet if you gonna fold to a river push anyway ?

@chenny, Sonic

I don't know how you two have marked TAG players but when I mark TAG that means TAG so played like this I would put tagish villain on better hand.

I dont know about the turn i guess it was automated call without thinking much, but i folded because i would play same way to get most value if i was him. It really seemed like value push

Originally posted by ancha666
@chenny, Sonic

I don't know how you two have marked TAG players but when I mark TAG that means TAG so played like this I would put tagish villain on better hand.

It's possible, but if you call the 3-bet, you gonna call the river too. I might even push the turn there given that we're committed anyway.

It's possible the guy has us, but we only need to win about 35-40 % of the time and those odds are good enough.

If he was a good tag, he'd have raised 66-99, JT+ anyway.

and btw, TAG in my book does not mean TAG postflop.

if he's playing TAG postflop, also, he is considered a rock in my opinion.

against a rock, i can see myself folding, but if villain is anything other than this, then i will call.

I would fold the turn. He bet/reraise the J and you are probably beat in most cases.

@chenny88 I use to label a TAG as somebody with stats around
VP$IP <15
PRF <6
AF >1.5
WSD <25
not only for his preflop stats

<15!

that's not really TAG, that's just bad :P.

OK, if he has AF 1.5+ then i will click call with a smile on my face. sort of like this ♦

Originally posted by chenny8888
<15!

that's not really TAG, that's just bad :P.

OK, if he has AF 1.5+ then i will click call with a smile on my face. sort of like this ♦

Sry typed wrong, it is <25 not 15 and it is a nice smile

In my opinion this definitely is a flop raise.
You dont want so much players in the pot with such a weak hand and
you need information.
So a flop raise looks strong on such a board and you mabye can
kickout both players.

On the other Hand, if someone calls or reraises you can be sure you are
beaten.

I also make a crying call. Otherwise one had to fold the turn and this is way too weak...