[Closed] nl100sh jj set b v b

Hello

You have to 4bet pre-flop. You are miles ahead of his 3betting range and realy don't want to play OOP for the rest of the hand.

As played PLEASE BET FLOP. This is such a bad board to give a free card on.

Originally posted by sw0ldo
Hello

You have to 4bet pre-flop. You are miles ahead of his 3betting range and realy don't want to play OOP for the rest of the hand.

As played PLEASE BET FLOP. This is such a bad board to give a free card on.

as played i fold river too, you really don't beat much, and if he was going to bluff he would bet the flop

i feel i totaly missplayed .
the thing i dont realy like in this situation preflop is geting shoved . any decent player in bbs spot wont call a 4 bet . will just shove or fold . so this practicaly turns jj into a bluff preflop .

Preflop 4-bet/call is pretty nice imo.
But I don't like leading into the preflop aggressor. We miss value because villain often bets the flop and we can c/r on the flop. If we lead villain folds many of his hands he would cbet. As played I think you should c/c the river because I don't see many queens and 7's in his range. I think he doesn't call something like KQ or AQ on Turn. All other queens like QJ, QT, QQ, AhQ, KhQ he probably would bet on the flop. Imo the on and only comprehensible range he could call on turn and bet the river is 77, 76, 78, TT, 88 but thats all. His line doesn't make much sense so I think I call and if he plays some tricky line I note it.

If we 4-bet/fold JJ preflop it turns our hand into a bluff, but when we 4-bet/call it isn't a bluff and we have enough equity to make our move profitable because we are able to take down the pot preflop very often.

Originally posted by BReWs7aR
As played I think you should c/c the river because I don't see many queens and 7's in his range. I think he doesn't call something like KQ or AQ on Turn. All other queens like QJ, QT, QQ, AhQ, KhQ he probably would bet on the flop. Imo the on and only comprehensible range he could call on turn and bet the river is 77, 76, 78, TT, 88 but thats all.

I don't really agree with that part.

If he has a hand like AhQ, he is probably checking behind because he has very good equity against our range but he only has A high and he is not folding anything better. I don't think betting with AhQ is a good play here (in the vacuum).

Also I don't think he calls a turn bet with 77,76,78, i think he folds those hands unless he is a huge station (he should expect a river bet a lot and most rivers are pretty awful for these hands if they're not crushed already). And I think he shoves 88 on the turn, because the board is simply too dangerous.

I really don't see what he could have that we beat unless he is very very bad.

Originally posted by lilprincess

Originally posted by BReWs7aR
As played I think you should c/c the river because I don't see many queens and 7's in his range. I think he doesn't call something like KQ or AQ on Turn. All other queens like QJ, QT, QQ, AhQ, KhQ he probably would bet on the flop. Imo the on and only comprehensible range he could call on turn and bet the river is 77, 76, 78, TT, 88 but thats all.

I don't really agree with that part.

If he has a hand like AhQ, he is probably checking behind because he has very good equity against our range but he only has A high and he is not folding anything better. I don't think betting with AhQ is a good play here (in the vacuum).

Also I don't think he calls a turn bet with 77,76,78, i think he folds those hands unless he is a huge station (he should expect a river bet a lot and most rivers are pretty awful for these hands if they're not crushed already). And I think he shoves 88 on the turn, because the board is simply too dangerous.

I really don't see what he could have that we beat unless he is very very bad.

Er... Why do you think betting with AhQ on flop is not a good play? He has the nutflush draw + two overcards so I think betting is necessary here in this spot.
It is possible that he checks behind hands like 67,78,77, 89,T8,T9 because he won't get raised on flop. The turn call is in my opinion not bad at all because hero can bluff these spot very well because villain checks a very drawheavy flop behind. He doesn't make sure to protect his hand. It is a good reason for us to bluff the turn with any two. If villain knows that he could easy call his oesd and furthermore he could have the best hand on turn.

Meanwhile I think b/f on river is better than c/c. Our line looks like pure weakness. I dislike check flop, bet turn, check river. There are imo lots of worse hands like twopaires that call on the river.

Preflop: You can do both, calling is fine as is 4-bet/call, depends a little bit on recent history and playertype.

Flop: I would always go for the c/r, he has a bunch of foldequity so i expect him to c-bet here frequently. If you lead he might also just call with an onecard-flushdraw instead of raising us.

Turn: Bet bigger.. 20-24. He either calls that or he calls nothing at all.

River: As played I would c/f, i don't see him bluffing in this spot too often.

I agree with Sebra. If you flatcall you can easily c/r all in when the flop contains no overcards. 4bet/calling is fine too.
As played, I definitely c/r. He will bet this flop far more often than not and you really can't expect to get folds a lot if you lead.
The river is pretty ugly and he probably doesn't bluff all that often, so I muck.

Can´t see why villain should hold Q and also can´t understand who would bluff on that spot, so I put him on 77 ♦ and should make tought laudown, but in reality I´m a calling station, so nicely played.