What's your ICM-Trainer score?

  • Poll
    • What's your ICM-Trainer score?

      • 21
        90%
        45%
      • 8
        95%
        17%
      • 7
        85%
        15%
      • 4
        100%
        9%
      • 3
        80%
        6%
      • 2
        lower than 30%
        4%
      • 1
        60%
        2%
      • 1
        65%
        2%
      • 0
        35%
        0%
      • 0
        30%
        0%
      • 0
        75%
        0%
      • 0
        40%
        0%
      • 0
        45%
        0%
      • 0
        55%
        0%
      • 0
        50%
        0%
      • 0
        70%
        0%
      Total: 47 Votes
    • Puschkin81
      Puschkin81
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.04.2006 Posts: 4,786
      If you want to improve your game in Sit and Go tournaments the ICM-Trainer is one tool to achieve this. You can download it in our "Downloads" area. In our weekly vote we would like to know how good you are and how many of your answers are correct after 100 attempts.

      Good luck at the tables!
      Puschkin81
  • 10 replies
    • Mugge88
      Mugge88
      Bronze
      Joined: 29.10.2006 Posts: 510
      Normally I end up around 95% when doing 100.. lowest was probably 89% and highest 98%, but been taking ALOT of tests already :) Hopefully I will reach 100% sometime, but still my record is 67 correct answers in a row :P

      Hope it will help me beat the games a little harder when I take up SNG's again...
    • mikeymoo
      mikeymoo
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.11.2007 Posts: 80
      90%. I'm new though, and have never played SnG's =P
    • chenny8888
      chenny8888
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.10.2007 Posts: 19,324
      95% consistently.. i'd say -1% to errors (i'm human) and -4% to super-marginal situations (eg trainer says range should be J7o+ and i folded J7o)
    • helemaalnicks
      helemaalnicks
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.09.2007 Posts: 7,195
      how did people get a score below 70%??? You get that by folding ATC.
    • Gungunhana
      Gungunhana
      Bronze
      Joined: 26.02.2007 Posts: 429
      Started on SnG strategy articles this week and ran two tests today.
      First one 80% and second one 91%.
      Will keep to it to reach over 98% before I start playing for real.
    • brett1985
      brett1985
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.10.2007 Posts: 33
      83% + 86% after two very quick goes.

      On the second go I misplayed 14 hands. Of these 14 hands a number were misplayed by within a 2% of the correct range. eg pushing AQ when I ought to push AQs+

      Biggest struggle was to evaluate hands like 95s with low stack and larger blinds.

      I've seen the likes of this software before. It is useful indeed. Should one be concerned though if they get 80%+ and make mistakes usually on marginal hands or is there an acceptable margin for error?
    • Nanouk
      Nanouk
      Bronze
      Joined: 19.11.2007 Posts: 23
      downloaded it today and had a go at just over 200 hands. 91%

      Though especially one of the last hands I did wonder.
      everybody hd folded to the SB. SB goes all in with 3000 and something.
      I´m in the BB with Q9o. I only have 500 Chips and the BB is 100.
      The answer to this one, for me, depends a lot on how I have perceived the SB. If I have him in for tight, I´lld fold. If he had been doing this a couple of times before I´lld call. I selected fold which was rated as false.
      Does that mean, once my stack is so small I should more or less call with anything? Not my style of playing and I have won a couple of 1$ and 5$ SNGs.
      But I would still like to know, why I should call here.
    • chenny8888
      chenny8888
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.10.2007 Posts: 19,324
      because in doing this you are assuming he's playing decent ICM poker. in this case because you're so short-stacked, his all-in range will be very wide. Q9o is a decent hand, it will be ahead a lot of the time. Also you have already committed 1/5 of your stack in posting the big blind and you need to make a move soon.

      in a real tournament, especially at the 1$ and 5$ levels, call ranges in ICM are 99% useless. the opponents will not be playing ICM and you have to analyse each situation case-by-case.


      btw that's not to say shove ranges should change. if ICM says that is a push in that situation, regardless of what table you are it's going to be worthwhile to do it
    • stuff1987
      stuff1987
      Bronze
      Joined: 09.11.2007 Posts: 10
      that's not true, take this (extreme) situation
      Blinds 400/800

      CO: 500
      BU: 500
      Hero(SB): 7000
      BB: 7000

      20/30/50 prize pool
      if BB knows about ICM he'll fold pretty much ATC(he should fold AK here), so you should push just about everything
      if BB is calling very wide here, you should fold a lot more hands. (don't wanna end up in a J9s vs Q3o battle here)
    • stuff1987
      stuff1987
      Bronze
      Joined: 09.11.2007 Posts: 10
      obviously CO and Button folded