[Closed] Js squize

I think we are deep enough to cold call here...
And get ready to go broke on most boards that are lower than J high... Unless the action gets really crazy

MP stats are crucial. I would fold jacks here against 15/10 guy, but how much hands do you have on him? I would make notice about his overcalling range.

Since UTG is LAG, I have fold equity, regardless of his shallow stack (14.7BB). Also due to his play style, short stack and being far away from the bubble, he may 4bet imo something like:
7s+, AJs+, KQs+, AJo+, so I am ahead of his range.

MP is kind of TAG, imo his flat calling range is pockets, AJs+, AQo+. Imo he is 3beting himself Qs+, AKo+.
I was opting for a flat call, but I wanted to iso UTG, since I should be ahead of his range but if I flat call and I don't flop an over pair or better I will have to give up most of the time. So my line is something like that, if that makes any sence.

As played, on the flop, my stack size is perfect for pushing, I have an overpair which is good enough, imo.

As far as the stats concern, both players were kind of unknown to me, so I have a small sample, but the general tendencies they have shown, were supported by the stats.

Raising here is just bad.

You will have to go broke on ANY flop with the few chips you have left.

Pushing is the way to go for me here. JJ is too strong to flat with and raising commits you
so just push and collect the dead money and hope you win the flip against MPs AK / AQ type
if he wont let it go preflop. The highest pocket I see him flatting with in that position is TT and
he is raising JJ+. He may be slow playing AA but that is not a good idea from that position.

If there were more callers to the original raise then I could flat and play post flop but
this is a great spot to shove IMO.

I agree that Js is too strong to flat in that spot.

But I don't like pushing, since I am way to deep (29.2BB).

Also if, I push and get called I would be flipping best case which is very
-$EV. (if we assume that he is slow playing Qs+, unlikely imo) Regardless, most of the time I would have a flip when I get called, which is horrible.

But If I 3bet / jam flop, Villain's, flat call PFR / flat call 3bet range
(AQo+, AQs+, 8s,9s,Ts) should miss most of the flops. If he was initially slow playing, As,Ks, flatting the PFR, imo he is 4beting here.

With my 3bet I can narrow his range. Imo as played he may call a push on low board with his pocket pairs, since he knows that in my range there are AK type hands.

Let me know what you think.

I have a question for you.

You three bet 11 big blinds to narrow his range and he shoves what do you do?

897 is right, this is not even a decision ♦

Hi all,

You have to call if he shoves 897. But I would call preflop. Sure we have the best hand a bunch, but calling also allows us to cooler lower pocketpairs on low boards, and it's quite deceptive with our hand as well. Calling allows us to play our hand well.

Originally posted by chenny8888
Hi all,

You have to call if he shoves 897. But I would call preflop. Sure we have the best hand a bunch, but calling also allows us to cooler lower pocketpairs on low boards, and it's quite deceptive with our hand as well. Calling allows us to play our hand well.

Fair enough but 3 betting = bad right?

I dislike 3betting. But it's not the worst... it will still show a positive EV I imagine. But calling would show a higher one with lower variance IMO

Originally posted by chenny8888
I dislike 3betting. But it's not the worst... it will still show a positive EV I imagine. But calling would show a higher one with lower variance IMO

Thanks. This one is an eye opener for me.

Thanks for the comments Chenny!

I see your point and I like your line better.

Cheers,
V~