[NL2-NL10] Content week: NL BSS quiz week #50

    • Puschkin81
      Puschkin81
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      Titan No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10/$0.20BB (Titan HH Converter by Kreatief)

      MP3 ($20.00)
      CO ($26.50)
      Button ($15.55)
      SB ($17.20) ( Vpip 43. PFR 15, AF 2,5, WTSD 38, 230 Hände ) Fishy
      BB ($27.92) (Hero)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with Q:club: , J:heart:
      MP3 calls $0.20, 1 folds, Button calls $0.20, SB calls $0.10, Hero checks,

      Flop: 9:spade: , T:spade: , 8:spade: ( $0.8 )
      SB bets $0.80, Hero raises to 3.2, 2 folds, SB calls $2.4,


      Scenario 1:

      Turn: 2:diamond: ( $7.2 )
      SB checks, Hero bets $6.5, 1 folds

      We are getting a freeplay in the big blind after two limpers and our straight. The SB who seems to be fish bets into us. We have to raise to protect our hand and to get information. The two limpers fold and the SB just calls. After the blank on the turn and the check from Villain we have to protect again and make an almost potsize bet.


      Scenario 2:

      Turn: 2:diamond: ( $7.2 )
      SB bets $6.5, Hero ?

      We have a very difficult decision because the SB bets potsize into us.

      How would you decide?

      1. Fold
      2. Call
      3. Raise all-in
  • 9 replies
    • srohack
      srohack
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      i think it matters a lot if he is a passive or an agreessive fish . if he is passive i would fold if he is agressive i would go all in
    • Faye6891
      Faye6891
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      Joined: 09.11.2007 Posts: 1,234
      I'd go all-in here.
    • snowylee
      snowylee
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      Im going with what srohack said
    • Nunki
      Nunki
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      A player at these limits and with these stats reduces the problem to one of getting villains stack into the middle.

      If we just call the turn then there is only about 1/3 psb left. A large part of villain's range probably has a :spade: and might not pay off on the river. Raising now extracts the most value not only from these hands but also all other non-flush made hands. If we are worried about playing for stacks here then we shouldn't have raised the turn.

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    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Hmm, bet that strong on fish. No point to play for stacks unraised pot. Easy fold to me.
    • helemaalnicks
      helemaalnicks
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      Joined: 21.09.2007 Posts: 7,195
      1. i would go all in, because the odds of him having a flush are waaaaay lower then the odds of him having something else, but then again, would depend on my read.

      2. This hardly ever happens... its probably neither -ev or +ev to go all in here...
    • rubysilesia
      rubysilesia
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      Joined: 03.07.2007 Posts: 351
      I would put him on this loose pessimistic range:

      equity win tie pots won pots tied
      Hand 0: 53.805% 47.99% 05.82% 35155 4262.50 { TT-88, AsJs, AsTs, As9s, As8s, As7s, As6s, As5s, As4s, As3s, As2s, KsQs, KsJs, KsTs, Ks9s, Ks8s, Ks7s, Ks6s, Ks5s, Ks4s, Ks3s, Ks2s, QJs, QsTs, Qs9s, Qs8s, JsTs, Js9s, Js8s, Js7s, T8s+, Ts7s, 98s, 9s7s, 9s6s, 8s7s, 8s6s, 7s6s, 7s5s, 6s5s, 6s4s, 5s4s, 4s3s, 3s2s, AsTc, AsTd, AsTh, KsTc, KsTd, KsTh, QJo, T8o+, 98o }
      Hand 1: 46.195% 40.38% 05.82% 29580 4262.50 { QcJh }

      We get about 50% pot equity. Considering the pot odds and his fishyness (which most likely increase our pot equity) I think that we have to push. Call is not an option since we would have to call a river bet anyway. Fold wouldn't be a big mistake here. Close decision but I would go for push.
    • Gungunhana
      Gungunhana
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      He is a fish and his AF is high. If he had hit the flush on the flop, probably he would have pushed after our reraise.
      Go allin.
    • Puschkin81
      Puschkin81
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      You could choose between:

      1. Fold
      2. Call
      3. Raise all-in

      I would prefer an all-in raise. The bet from the fishy SB can mean everything but from my point of view this is more often a bet where he wants to find out whether he can push Hero out of the pot than a bet with a made flush. In addition he would have to protect the smaller flush on the flop already. He can only slowplay with an Ax or Kx flush and I think it is more often a two pair, top pair + flush draw, overcard + flush draw or something similar.

      Call isn’t an option because he can see a relatively cheap river and we would have to fold if another Spade comes up on the river.

      Of course it can happen that we run into a made flush but in the long run an all-in raise should be profitable.