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Turnplay in position? Poll is created on Jan 06, 2008

  
  

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Another hand about turnplay in positon.

If you haven't read the content about it please do this first.

21/15/3.1/25

3/6 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q♦, Q♠
4 folds, SB raises, Hero 3-bets, SB calls.

Flop: (6,00 SB) A♣, 6♠, J♥ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

Turn: (4,00 BB) 2♦ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero ???


9 replies

Check behind, call river bet.


Yoghi
Joined: 10.09.2007

I definitely bet this. I also bet any river if I don't get raised.

Didn't read it and don't know where to find it? :(

Edit2: what does this have to do with that article btw? Isn't this just an easy valuebet all the way through when he calls down.

last edit: This looks kind of arrogant, but it's not :(


well hard to say, i dont see a lot of outs against us and almost everything we beat will fold the turn (considering the wtsd of 25 is correct) whereas some hands we beat might still try to bluff the river or call a river bet since it looks weak to check the turn. if he had a higher wts it would be an easy bet/fold turn but this wtsd of 25 makes it kinda different - i kinda tend to make a check behind here and call a river bet or bet myself if he checks.


Despite the Ace on the flop it's an easy c-bet. When villain calls he could be planning on raising the turn, or he may be calling down, or he may be planning to fold the turn unimproved.

Checking behind doesn't allow him to fold, or check-raise.

A check-raise would be horrible, it would be difficult to fold QQ to a raise. If he plans on folding to a turn bet unimproved then we haven't given him that option, instead we could be inducing a river bluff after showing weakness on the turn.

If we're behind to an Ace we also only loose 1BB by checking the turn and calling a river bet.


Originally posted by Yoghi
I definitely bet this. I also bet any river if I don't get raised.

Didn't read it and don't know where to find it? :(

Edit2: what does this have to do with that article btw? Isn't this just an easy valuebet all the way through when he calls down.

last edit: This looks kind of arrogant, but it's not :(

Well it's about the questions and you can definatly apply them at any turn decision. :)


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

going to have a go at this:

check behind with the intention of inducing a river bluff.

we're behind to an A, forced to call a possible 2BB if he's check/raising, allow weaker hands to fold, on a not very drawheavy board.

i'd bet behind/call on the river if he checks though.


i dont think it would be correct to call a checkraise...if he is trying to bluff he would do it on the flop...very unusual to bluff the turn here since its way to expensive for a bluff...


According to the Golden Questions it's easy check-behind:

- Can we make a better hand fold? Never
- Do we have a double value bet (will he call on turn *and* river with a worse hand) Probably not, the A is a big scarecard for him
- Do we need to protect? Nope, board is dry
- Do we have an easy decision on a c/r? Not at all
- Do we have a chance to induce a bluff on the river? Yes

Easy cb :)
next time maybe a bit more marginal situation? :)


Nice analyses Classical. In the rush I just voted for bet again *lol*.

Check behind is the better play because he is aggressive and not very showdownbound.