Mss Nl10

JHTAN

Joined: 10.07.2010

10.04.2011, 04:20 0

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NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
SB ($10.07)
BB ($10.87)
UTG ($17.75)
UTG+1 ($9.10)
UTG+2 ($10.55)
Hero ($4.36)
MP2 ($4)
CO ($4)
BTN ($10.15)

Dealt to Hero T♥ T♣

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.30, MP2 calls $0.30, fold, fold, fold, fold

FLOP ($0.75) J♦ 5♥ 9♦

Hero bets $0.40, MP2 calls $0.40

TURN ($1.55) J♦ 5♥ 9♦ J♥

Hero bets $1.20, MP2 raises to $3.30 (AI), Hero?

Hi,

Villain is 15/0(13 hands).
According to the MSS, we should c/f this hand on Turn, right? But I think we are ahead most of the time here? How do you play this hand?

Thanks

7 replies

mineriva

Joined: 30.04.2008

Posts: 913

10.04.2011, 06:56 0

I see your point: The J on the turn makes it less likely that he has toppair therefore second pair has more value.

I think I c/f the turn 8/10 times. The other 2/10 times I b/f.

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JHTAN

Joined: 10.07.2010

Posts: 1,300

10.04.2011, 08:37 0

Hi mineriva,

what do you think about his c/r range?

mineriva

Joined: 30.04.2008

Posts: 913

10.04.2011, 08:47 0

I think he is c/r with:

QQ+ (I see this line quite often with big pairs)
Jx
OESD and/or FD (as bluffs)

The fact that we have Th means there is only 1 combo where villian has OESD+FD which means his c/r range is more likely to have us crushed.

I am like never calling the c/r

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Gerv

Joined: 07.05.2008

Posts: 11,641

10.04.2011, 15:59 0

You have to be very sure he is betting a large portion of his range on the Turn as a bluff when you check to him.
If he is only betting Jx on the Turn and checking back draws, you are screwed

But yet I think b/f is also pretty thin so I think c/R with the amount of draws here is still abit better than everything else (c/c, c/f, b/f, b/c)

Best regards,
Gerv

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JHTAN

Joined: 10.07.2010

Posts: 1,300

10.04.2011, 16:41 0

Originally posted by Gerv
You have to be very sure he is betting a large portion of his range on the Turn as a bluff when you check to him.
If he is only betting Jx on the Turn and checking back draws, you are screwed

But yet I think b/f is also pretty thin so I think c/R with the amount of draws here is still abit better than everything else (c/c, c/f, b/f, b/c)

Best regards,
Gerv

Hey Gerv,

I am sorry because I dont understand you statement. Hero does not check on the Turn as you said.
Do you mean Hero c/r Turn better than b/f?

_Anonymous_

10.04.2011, 19:21 0

I think this hand looks pretty good if you fold on the turn. Betting another time on the turn is brilliant and I will implement this in my game aswell, but when he raise you I think you are beat.

The problem i see is that your turn bet is maybe abit to big $1 is better. You wont give him so much odds for a flush draw cause you are MSS. Also if he plays back we can fold and lose less.

Gerv

Joined: 07.05.2008

Posts: 11,641

11.04.2011, 10:01 0

Originally posted by JHTAN

Originally posted by Gerv
You have to be very sure he is betting a large portion of his range on the Turn as a bluff when you check to him.
If he is only betting Jx on the Turn and checking back draws, you are screwed

But yet I think b/f is also pretty thin so I think c/R with the amount of draws here is still abit better than everything else (c/c, c/f, b/f, b/c)

Best regards,
Gerv

Hey Gerv,

I am sorry because I dont understand you statement. Hero does not check on the Turn as you said.
Do you mean Hero c/r Turn better than b/f?

If check, I check/raise
And since I don't like betting, one checks obviously

Best regards,
Gerv

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