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[Closed] $6, 2 hands, different leaks (most likely)

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Hi guys,

Got three hands here for you to have a look at. Any advice on how I can maximise value in these spots or play different to ensure a more favourable outcome would be appreciated.

1. In this example I was abusing my superior stack size and playing more LAG than I would at these blind levels normally. I doubled up in the first hand by bet sizing in such a way that the player committed all his chips over the 4 streets (as is often the plan when having AA!). People seemed to fold to my raises quite quickly after that, except for this hand, where the BB calls.

Party Poker $6 USD Buy-in No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t30/t60 Blinds - 8 players

MP1: t1900 31.67 BBs
Hero (MP2): t4320 72 BBs
CO: t1240 20.67 BBs
BTN: t2420 40.33 BBs
SB: t2780 46.33 BBs
BB: t2980 49.67 BBs
UTG: t1940 32.33 BBs
UTG+1: t2420 40.33 BBs

Pre Flop: (t0) Hero is MP2 with 3 :spade: A :spade:
3 folds, Hero raises to t180, 3 folds, BB calls t180

Flop: (t360) 9 :spade: J :spade: J :club: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t360) 7 :spade: (2 players)
BB bets t180, Hero calls t180

River: (t720) 9 :heart: (2 players)
BB bets t420, Hero calls t420

3. So I was playing some short handed here, still technically in the early phase and comfortable in terms of my stack size. Obviously it was pocket rockets and needed to be played, but any advice on bet sizing and my post flop play etc would be great.

Party Poker $6 USD Buy-in No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds - 6 players

Hero (CO): t3605 18.02 BBs
BTN: t8480 42.40 BBs
SB: t2920 14.60 BBs
BB: t1850 9.25 BBs
UTG: t965 4.83 BBs
MP: t2180 10.90 BBs

Pre Flop: (t0) Hero is CO with A :club: A :heart:
1 fold, MP raises to t600, Hero raises to t1200, 3 folds, MP calls t600

Flop: (t2400) Q :diamond: 6 :spade: K :heart: (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t2400) 7 :club: (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks

River: (t2400) 8 :club: (2 players)
MP bets t980 all in, Hero calls t980

Had a nice heater last night, followed by a major down swing which lost me a load of money, but then turned it back around and managed to end the evening in profit, by $30-40. I am sure that I could reduce the downswing that I had however, so I am intending to keep asking you guys for advice, reading and improving my game. Who knows, maybe I will follow Pleno1's example and start a blog ;)

Appreciate the advice gents :)

Edit - Got rid of number 2 because it was a bad play, as simple as that. OOP, marginal hand, early phase - nuff said.


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pleno1
Joined: 19.11.2010

hand 1) I think this is a pretty easy fold pre, I would rather open q10/qj/kq kind iof hands where we can flop top pair than low ace where we can be often dominated as at these stakes people just flick it in with a9 etc. I guess as standard I would cbet the flop for 1/3 - 1/2 pot, but checkign back is fine as when we get c/r we sigh alot.

hand 2) the limp pre is really bad for obvious reasons, its impossible for anyone t really give good enough analysis because nobidy will have the sufficient experience of limping UTG w/a10o. But you have already stated that this isn't your standard line. In general I just would never ever open limp in NL, UTG is perhaps the only place you can sometimes get away with it as you can later rep areally strong range.

hand 3) the 3bet is really bad. we are never 3betting ehre as a bluff with less than 20bbs so when we click ti back it just looks insanely strong, its a super standard high five the dealer jam.


Originally posted by pleno1

hand 3) the 3bet is really bad. we are never 3betting ehre as a bluff with less than 20bbs so when we click ti back it just looks insanely strong, its a super standard high five the dealer jam.

Afraid I don't understand? Surely I am always going to reraise a bet preflop when im holding AA? I wanted to bet big enough to get him pot committed, and hopefully look like I was trying a re-steal.

The board looked a bit dangerous, with me putting the villain on AK, AQ or high pocket pair, was a rainbow with no easy flush draw and some straight draw potential. I did consider that he might have KK or QQ or even KQ, but had to play the Aces anyway as it was equally possible he had JJ or Ax.

I wanted to get as much out of him as I could, so I check flop and turn, then call him AI on the river, where I would have pushed all in if he hadnt anyway.


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pleno1
Joined: 19.11.2010

Yeh but think about what you would do if you had a bluffing hand. The guy opens and if you raise and he goes all in you are always going to be commited. Therefore when you have less than 25bbs you never 3bet as a bluff because you will be commited to call.

So when somebody raises and we have XX. we have three options.

1) Fold - we have a bad hand, or we don't believe he will fold if we jam

2) Call - Generally terrible as we are getting shortstacked and if we had a good hand we would raise. However it can be good for deception, i.e flat calling with a big hand

3) 3bet shove. i.e go all in when they raise

Let me know if you understand this or not?


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pleno1
Joined: 19.11.2010

And you say you "dont want to scare him off" but if I raised and you shoved I would call you with a lottttttttt wideer range than if you min raised to 1200.

OFC there will be situatuons where guys call etc, but in general especially moving up 3betting instead of shoving here will be a really big mistake.

There isn't one hand that you would ever make it 1200 here except absolute nut hands.


Ah ok I get you. So it was blatantly obvious what I had because I didnt ship it AI and trying and force him out of the hand.

Thinking about it, if I was bluffing or semi-bluffing, I would push all in, which is exactly why I should have duplicated that behaviour in this situation to maximise the likelihood he would call me.

Cheers Patrick, will bear that in mind for future spots of the same kind.


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pleno1
Joined: 19.11.2010

:)


a laggy style isnt really suited to STTs. some people make it work, but its more suited to mid-high stakes. staying TAG at micros is more +EV IMO.

if you do want to LAG it up, you need to lower your pre-flop sizings so you can 'afford' to raise more hands and cbet more often.

1. cbet your NFD for value and deception. raise the turn for value (you have under-repped your hand. just call river is ok, some missed draws out there.

3. nice 3bet size, people at these stakes dont think about what hand you have when you 3bet like this they just look at their hand and want to see a flop. you are giving him every opportunity to spew off with worse and a shove can easily fold out hands which he would gladly call an extra 600 to see a flop and stack off with a pair. well played post-flop. when he is so short you just want to induce a bluff from villain.