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axelphoney
Joined: 03.10.2009

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($117)
BB ($111)
UTG ($61)
UTG+1 ($102)
CO ($30)
Hero ($203)

Dealt to Hero 6♥ J♥

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $2.25, fold, BB calls $1.25

FLOP ($5) Q♥ 2♣ 9♥

BB checks, Hero bets $3.34, BB raises to $10, Hero calls $6.66

TURN ($25) Q♥ 2♣ 9♥ 5♥

BB bets $13, Hero calls $13

RIVER ($51) Q♥ 2♣ 9♥ 5♥ Q♠

BB bets $86 (AI), Hero folds?

villain: 21/17 - 40 hands

Everything standard until the river? Maybe that we could 3bet flop, but what would we have to know about the opponent to make that a profitable play?

Now he overbets. Valuehands are basically only 99,22 and the nutflush that thinks I am either a fish or FPS guy who cant fold trips (and the flush if he has the boat). Or he is just trying to be superscary and bluff me off a weak flush?

But without any reads, fold?


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Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

The question is why he's betting so small on the turn.
This is either a nutflush that doesn't want to scare us, or a set that tries to give itself good odds.
I'm raising small for value vs the sets ($32).
In case he shoves we have an easy fold, if he calls we can be more or less sure he has a set (maybe the occasional AQ with the A of hearts) so our riverplay is easy.

As played I'm folding the river because it looks an awful lot like he's trying to maximize value - not only vs a low flush, but potentially even vs Qx.


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axelphoney
Joined: 03.10.2009

Originally posted by Bierbaer
In case he shoves we have an easy fold, if he calls we can be more or less sure he has a set (maybe the occasional AQ with the A of hearts) so our riverplay is easy.

Is it really an esay fold if he shoves? Don't you think he could overplay a set from time to time, and a worse flush? (T8s,75s,76s,87s)

As played, I agree it's a fold. But I ended up calling anyway (stupid fish!!) and he had the nutflush.


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Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

(T8s,75s,76s,87s) should all be in fold-or-3bet mode pre.


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axelphoney
Joined: 03.10.2009

Even against a 2.25bb open raise? Personally I call much lighter against those small raises.


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Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

.I only do that if I plan of bluffing a lot postflop.
With f.e. 87s you're an underdog even vs a 90% range:

       Equity     Win     Tie
MP2    54.13%  52.12%   2.01% { 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T2s+, 92s+, 82s+, 72s+, 62s+, 52s+, 42s+, 32s, A2o+, K2o+, Q2o+, J2o+, T2o+, 93o+, 84o+, 74o+, 64o+, 53o+ }
MP3    45.87%  43.86%   2.01% { 87s }

Ofc we have the equity to call preflop, but the playability is not too great and we're OOP, so I much rather 3bet.


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