[NL20-NL50] SH25 - Overpair on dry board

    • chocular77
      chocular77
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      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      BB:
      $57,5
      MP2:
      $8
      Hero:
      $30,65

      0,15/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy.com Elephant 0.105 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with K:spade: , K:diamond:
      MP2 calls $0,25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1,25, SB folds, BB calls $1,00, MP2 calls $1,00.

      Flop: ($3,90) J:heart: , 6:spade: , 2:club: (3 players)
      BB bets $2, MP2 calls $2,00, Hero calls $2,00.

      Raising wouldn't accomplish much.

      Turn: ($9,90) J:diamond: (3 players)
      BB checks, MP2 raises $4,75 (All-In), Hero folds, BB calls $4,75.

      Don't know what BB will do and one of them should at least have a J.

      River: ($19,40) 9:spade: (2 players)

      Final Pot: $19,40
  • 7 replies
    • TetraQuark
      TetraQuark
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      Raise/fold flop here, we get much more information. BB is quite aggro and mp is a fish so I think this line is optimal.
    • chocular77
      chocular77
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      Maybe raising for value is the right play.

      Just got influenced by this hand which happend one session bevor
      SH25 - AA multiway

      But it's not the same situation since it's only a 1/2 donk and the important part, no raise.
    • DeLau
      DeLau
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      I would raise flop for value unless he has low donkbet% and check/raise% + fish is never folding Jx.
    • TetraQuark
      TetraQuark
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      Originally posted by chocular77
      Maybe raising for value is the right play.

      Just got influenced by this hand which happend one session bevor
      SH25 - AA multiway

      But it's not the same situation since it's only a 1/2 donk and the important part, no raise.
      Yeah but in that case it is a completely different story as their action represent so much strength. We are behind at least one of their ranges.

      Here is a bit different, the guy that dnks is quite aggro and could do this with variety of hands (TP, mid pair, bluff ...) and fishy just calls which means his range is weak.
    • chocular77
      chocular77
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      In addition BB donkbet% = 40 so it's a clear valueraise

      Thx guys, the next time i will try to include all the information into my decision and won't let me influence by hands from the past that looked somehow the same.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Hi,

      I think calling flop is fine, you can raise there, but I doubt yo get called down by worse hands and likely only J or A are scare cards. Getting these odds I would likely call MP2 shove and check it down on the river

      Best regards,
    • TetraQuark
      TetraQuark
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      There is an advance discuss in Bogdans Stats Surgeon pt.1 video on a identical situation, which nicely shows why raising is better in these spots where there is one shorter stack in the pot. Calling is okay but raising is superior.