$100 [SH] Bubble: Two tricky Folding War hands with Tiny Stacks

If there is no ante my range for 2nd hand is maybe KK+? And that only because sb might call after we go all-in. Chips we win worthless, only thing that really matters to us is to have sb bust before us.

hand 1. SB range should be ATC. its ATC in nash and folding any hand in the SB is a mistake. if this reg folds to you here, hes bad. just look up the nash range and you can see waht you can call vs the reg, maybe a bit tighter than nash if the BTN is a fishy player. it feels like a fold. the ICM calc will not factor the BTN being ocmmitted next hand.

hand 2. easy call, the SB is not going to make big mistakes here. its just a pot odds decision

With a 70:30 structure a win is worth more than two second places.
It is very important to win in these games to make a profit - this is very different from a 60:40 structure where making the money is nearly all that counts.
It is okay to play a first or bust stragegy in a lot of spots and hand one is such a spot. If we fold the best thing that can happen realistically is a second place but if we make this call with quite a good hand against a wide range we have 2780 chips and a decent chance of winning this tournament.

Yes, a fold will get us in the money more often than a call
BUT a call will make us slightly more money in the long run.

like i said, just look up the nash range.

here it is (its a bit looser than i thought!)

SB 100.0%, Any two
BB 22.6%, 55+ A3s+ A5o+ K8s+ K9o+ QTs+ QJo

so yes KTs is a call in nash. if you think hes only pushing 70% then you should use sng wiz to analyse it.

this is the call range vs a 70% SB range -

55+,A6+,A2s+,KT+,K9s+,QTs+

Yes, easy call against a nash range pusher.

But the nash ranges often do not help because advanced SNG regulars in my games often deviate from nash. Some push quite a bit tighter in some spots like the guy in hand one and you get killed if you call the nash range against them. You must call tighter as they give you free equity when they fold.

Opponent and spot specific ranges are much better than nash ranges.

ok, so you understand when to use nash and when to use exploititative play. im not sure why you posted the hand? you know what you are doing in these basic push/fold situations. be confident in yourself

Hand 1. None of our options are good. We're in a lottery with the other shorty as to who happens to survive his upcoming all-in with the big stack.

I don't think we gain much by postponing this confrontation. I just call with amazing odds and a very good hand and don't overthink it. If SB isn't pushing wide enough for this to be a call then he's just bad and no kind of reg.

Hand 2. Call as <3 says. If SB has any clue, he also folds if we fold and we are still AI next 2 hands. Very unlikely to have a hand as good as A9s so we are likely to bust anyway. Another situation where we have no good options, only bad ones. So I just take the least bad one and expect to be busting out any moment now. We need a miracle to cash, plain and simple.

H#2

But why do you want a miracle where you have to win 4 all-ins instead of 3?

The first one is an easy fold!
why do people always think that ICM is the nuts?
This goes about FGS and not ICM. As lessthenthree said that in the ICM calculation is not that next hand the shortie (where you have a folding war with) is in the BB.
the second hand is maybe any two fold? i do not see a reason to go allin.
think only shove AA is ok there.