[NL2-NL10] NL10 4bet shove QQ pre

    • jozata
      jozata
      Bronze
      Joined: 30.07.2008 Posts: 646
      Pacific, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

      MP: $10 (100 bb)
      CO: $11.35 (113.5 bb)
      BTN: $17.96 (179.6 bb)
      Hero (SB): $10 (100 bb)
      BB: $16.96 (169.6 bb)
      UTG: $12.11 (121.1 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with Q Q
      UTG raises to $0.35, MP raises to $1.20, 2 folds, Hero raises to $10 and is all-in, 2 folds, MP calls $8.80 and is all-in

      Flop: ($20.45) K 7 T (2 players, 2 are all-in)
      Turn: ($20.45) 8 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
      River: ($20.45) 8 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

      UTG VPIP/PFR/AF/F3b/Hands
      43/22/0,57/50/24
      MP VPIP/PFR/AF/3b/Hands
      24/12/2,33/8,3/87
      Is it ok to 4bet shove QQ here and if not what is the best play?
  • 3 replies
    • Spungeh
      Spungeh
      Bronze
      Joined: 29.06.2011 Posts: 1,212
      Im not folding.. but then i cant fold JJ in this spot either.. Your normally > his range.. but could be holding AA,KK,Ax,Kx,AK hands.. that you are flipping with some of them.
    • jozata
      jozata
      Bronze
      Joined: 30.07.2008 Posts: 646
      Equity Win Tie
      MP2 40.21% 38.35% 1.86% { QQ }
      MP3 59.79% 57.93% 1.86% { QQ+, AKs, AKo }
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello jozata,

      You are 4betting against a UTG & MP, do you really think that they are gonna continue there with a lot worse hands. Even if you 4bet there why not leave him room to shove with a lot worse hands for example?

      What you are hoping that he calls with if you 4bet shove there like that? You practically put out the range which continues from his side. Do you think you are able to earn profit from such equity?

      Best Regards.