list of VPP´s per limit + rake per limit

    • TribunCaesar
      TribunCaesar
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      This is a list of how how many VPP´s you earn per limit. It might be informative for you.

      NO-LIMIT FR:

      NL10 FR =...........2,9 - 4......VPP/100
      NL25 FR =.......... 10-12.......VPP/100
      NL50 FR =...........22-26.......VPP/100
      NL100 FR = ........30-38.......VPP/100
      NL200 FR =.........46-49.......VPP/100
      NL400 FR = ........57-67.......VPP/100
      NL600 FR = ........75........... VPP/100
      NL1000 FR = ......100......... VPP/100

      NO-LIMIT SH:

      NL10 SH =..........3.22........VPP/100
      NL25 SH =..........10-11......VPP/100
      NL50 SH =..........22............VPP/100
      NL100 SH =........46............VPP/100
      NL200 SH =........53............VPP/100
      NL400 SH =........66............VPP/100
      NL600 SH =........71............VPP/100
      NL1000 SH =......80............VPP/100


      FIXED LIMIT FR:
      0,5/1 FL FR =........17...........VPP/100

      FIXED LIMIT SH:
      FFP's:
      0,5/1 FL SH= ......20-23.......VPP/100
      1/2 FL SH =.........38-39.......VPP/100
      2/4 FL SH =........ 45........... VPP/100
      3/6 FL SH =........ 70-80...... VPP/100
      5/10 FL SH = .....110-120....VPP/100
      10/20 FL SH = ...140-155... VPP/100
      15/30 FL SH = ...166.......... VPP/100

      PL OMAHA:
      PLO 25 ............... 20...........VPP/100
      PLO 100.............. 43...........VPP/100
      PLO 200 ............. 80...........VPP/100


      RAKE:

      NO-LIMIT FR:
      NL10 FR =.............6.4 BB/100...(21k hands)
      NL25 FR =.............7.2 BB/100...(37k hands)

      FIXED LIMIT FR:
      0,5/1 FL FR =.....2,17 BB/100...(16k Hands)

      FIXED LIMIT SH:
      0,25/0,5 FL SH.....2.52 BB/100...(22k hands)
      0,5/1 FL SH..........2.45 BB/100...(48k hands)
      1/2 FL SH =..........2.40 BB/100...(18k hands)
      2/4 FL SH =..........1.82 BB/100...(16k hands)
      3/6 FL SH ............2.01 BB/100...(21k hands)



      Multiplicators:
      silverstar (1,200 VPP/month) = ................. x 1,5
      goldstar (3,000 VPP/month) = ................... x 2
      platinumstar (7,500 VPP/month) = .......... x 2,5
      super nova (100,000 VPP/year) = ............. x 3,5
      super nova elite (1 mil VPP/year) = ............x 5

      per $ tourney-fee you get 5 VPP


      If you can add informations, post in this thread and i edit the entry post.

      Best regards,
      TribunCaesar
  • 49 replies
    • DrFunk
      DrFunk
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      I don't fully understand.

      If I play NL25FR i get 12VPP every 100 hands? What about NL10?
    • CoreySteel
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      Joined: 25.10.2006 Posts: 3,366
      I played 4106 hands on FL 0.25/0.50 SH and got only 88 points (including some tournaments). So let's say I collected 80 points.

      That means only 2 VPP/100 hands.

      On 0.5/1.0 I'd get ......20-23.......VPP/100?

      Something not right here...
    • CoreySteel
      CoreySteel
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      Joined: 25.10.2006 Posts: 3,366
      Again...
      Today I played 800 hands and I got 12 points. 1.5VPP/100 hands...

      Am I doing my calculation wrong?

      I will be looking onto rake tomorrow, to see if I really earn only 12 VPP in 100 hands.. :)
    • ciRith
      ciRith
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      Joined: 25.03.2005 Posts: 18,556
      That could be correct. I heart as well that you get only very few points on the micros at PokerStars.
    • CoreySteel
      CoreySteel
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      Joined: 25.10.2006 Posts: 3,366
      Well, it's true.

      You get 1VPP when rake reach 0.4$ that means that pot has to be 8$ big. And this indeed happens every 1 or 2 times in 100 hands :rolleyes:

      Guess I'll have to jump on 0.5/1.00 soon :D
    • TimothyVdp1
      TimothyVdp1
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      Joined: 11.12.2007 Posts: 5,820
      I played 11500 hands on NL25 SH and have 1650fpp's
      this is, however, a short amount of shortstacking NL100 (500hands) so lets say 1500fpp's
      this meands 1500/11500 fpp's/hands which is 13fpp's/100hands so a little bit more than OP suggests :)
      I'll see what happens on 50NL SH when I played 10k hands there!
    • CoreySteel
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      Well you've played 500 hands on NL500 and that could be worth more than 200 VPP, so you could collect like 1400 on NL25, which is I guess like 12VPP/100 ;)
    • TimothyVdp1
      TimothyVdp1
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      Originally posted by CoreySteel
      Well you've played 500 hands on NL500 and that could be worth more than 200 VPP, so you could collect like 1400 on NL25, which is I guess like 12VPP/100 ;)
      NL100, not NL500 :D
    • CoreySteel
      CoreySteel
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      It was just a typing mistake, calculation is correct ;)
    • opal99
      opal99
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      Joined: 05.02.2008 Posts: 8,270
      Originally posted by TribunCaesar
      RAKE:
      1/2 FL SH =......2,40BB/100...(18k Hands)
      2/4 FL SH =......1,82BB/100...(16k Hands)
      2/4 FL SH = 1.98BB/100 (25k hands)
      3/6 FL SH = 2.01BB/100 (21.5k hands)
    • Yoghi
      Yoghi
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      2/4 FL SH = 2.01BB/100 (22k hands)
    • jasty2k
      jasty2k
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      I don't really understand for rakeback on tourney.

      Let's say I play DON turbo of 20.8$ : 0.8$ rake per game and 4FFP per game.

      If I play 1625 DON per month, I will make 1300$ rake and get 6500FFP
      As I will probably be goldstar I will get 100% more FFP so 13000FFP.

      I look in the store : 50$ for 5000FFP so my 13.000FFP worth 130$
      That's just 10% RB, isn't it a bit low ?
    • opal99
      opal99
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      Originally posted by jasty2k
      I look in the store : 50$ for 5000FFP so my 13.000FFP worth 130$
      That's just 10% RB, isn't it a bit low ?
      Yes, you're right: it's low, but it depends on your VIP level; e.g. Platinum player gets ~25% rakeback on 2/4 - 5/10 FL SH and 35% as Supernova. It's not easy for only-tourney players to get decent rakeback on Stars - that's fact...
    • Yoghi
      Yoghi
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      And the $50 for 5000FPP is a bad bonus aswell, you can get ~$0.016 on some things, and not 0.01 like you get here.
    • punkd99
      punkd99
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      I've got 7 FFP's but I still haven't got any pokerstrategy points.
    • Screwloose
      Screwloose
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      How do you see where you get the rakeback on Pokerstars?

      I'm only playing $3 + $0.40 and NL$0.02/$0.05

      Any advice apprieciated
    • opal99
      opal99
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      Originally posted by Screwloose
      How do you see where you get the rakeback on Pokerstars?

      I'm only playing $3 + $0.40 and NL$0.02/$0.05

      Any advice apprieciated
      Hi Screwloose;

      there's no direct rakeback on PokerStars (like on FullTilt), but you can redeem you FPPs for cash bonuses: PokerStars VIP Store. The lowest of them are not so much interesting, because you get only $0.01/FPP, so it's better to save them for a while and then spend them on Platinum or Supernova offers (it's $0.013/$0.016 for them).
    • Screwloose
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      Ta... will have to read up abit more.

      Still learning so hopefully I wont lose my BR quickly.
    • Grimzor
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      Joined: 28.03.2008 Posts: 421
      Will do more testing, but at first sight stud hi/lo 1/2$ gives ~38VPPs per 100 hands.