BSS Public Private Coaching by Hasenbraten

    • hasenbraten
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      hello everybody,

      This friday i held the coaching once again with "losina".
      We already played together in this coaching in the past but since he was the only one willing to take the chance, i was really glad to be assisted by him.
      i as always enjoyed it since i do think he is a good player and its very easy to get into even deeper conversation about poker with him, so i guess the over 80 listeners enjoyed it as well.
      maybe there will be a change in the timetable in the next weeks since on thursday evenings i usually have just ~25 listeners. anyways we had one interesting hand i want to share with you. Since the converter doesnt work with it im gonna recap it:

      6max NL50SH
      Effective stacks ~75$
      Hero is SB with black Aces
      MP raises 2$
      Hero raises 7$
      MP calls 5$
      Flop: 3h5h6h Pot ~14$
      Hero bets 10$

      whats our line if MP either calls or raises? no further reads


      greetings
      hasenbraten
  • 60 replies
    • IndigoSpotlight
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      first hand is standard if you ask me but i might minraise the turn in the second hand although its hard to get value there at all
    • chenny8888
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      1. seems ok but @river, i know you're thinking blockbet/fold here, but i think 2/3 potsize as a valuebet is OK too. but you're still folding to a raise there.

      2. IMO you have to raise the turn in the second hand as otherwise you can't easily get your stack in on the river
    • Crozac
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      first hand is ok by me.
      2nd one. I would miniraise both flop and turn
    • hasenbraten
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      15/5 with Bordito nl25SH

      Hi Pepole,

      Once again we had a Session with one of you users running. It was quite a good one, the Player was usually really aggressive, especially preflop, which i liked a lot. There was just one smallish leak in his play in my oppinion which had to do with his range-thinking. One hand i wanted to share with you today :

      Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Party Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

      MP ($11.08)
      CO ($9.72)
      Button ($8.25)
      Hero ($30.48)
      BB ($75.33)
      UTG ($37.02)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with J:spade: , J:diamond: .
      UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, CO calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.75, BB calls $1.50, UTG folds, CO folds, Button folds.

      Flop: ($4.25) 7:club: , 5:diamond: , 2:club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $3, BB calls $3.

      Turn: ($10.25) 5:heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets $6.5, BB calls $6.50.

      River: ($23.25) 6:club: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BB bets $10

      Villian quite a tight Tag. What about flop turn and ovc - River play?
      Play it any different? River is ~1 PSB left.

      Greetings, your rabbitroast ( :D )
    • sw0ldo
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      Flop is fine
      ~$8 on turn
      Shove river
    • chenny8888
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      Originally posted by sw0ldo
      Flop is fine
      ~$8 on turn
      Shove river
      #2, negative freeroll
    • hasenbraten
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      pump!
    • Nahsh
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      nice coaching.
      i especially liked the PLO part.
    • Hyperz
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      great coaching! thank you! :D
    • hasenbraten
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      bump
    • awishformore
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      1. If he calls and there is another heart on the turn b/f, c/f. If there's not b/f b/f. If he raises, call and c/c, c/f without heart on turn, c/f c/f with heart on turn.

      2. b/f turn, river c/c small bet, c/f big bet, this 10$ would a call for me for example.
    • hasenbraten
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      Hello Community,

      Today i had coaching with Patrick, a Player from Germany who plays for about a year. He plays nl25 FR BSS and did not move up so far because he just doesnt play that many hands.
      We were a little Carddead but still had a few interesting spots in which we could figure out some interesting differences.

      One and as always:

      Hasenbraten

      <-- Hand be edited in later
    • awishformore
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      Can you still give the "solution" to the previous hands please :D
    • hasenbraten
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      1 is imo
      bf flop bf almost all turns
      bf or cf depending on cards on turn / river on the river
      2 nh imo river is superclose i guess calling and folding both can be fine
    • hasenbraten
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      Once Again we had the PPC running.
      I had to play a few minutes on my own until younbuck311 joined and said he could do this coaching.
      he usually played 50+5 SNGs so it was very interesting to listen to his sometimes different approach to certain hands. Still, he was quite a solid player and certainly winning on nl50.

      Hasenbraten

      What do you think about this one?

      Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Party Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

      Hero ($66.70)
      Button ($58.01)
      SB ($49.50)
      BB ($50)
      UTG ($14.04)

      Preflop: Hero is MP with K:club: , A:spade: .
      Hero raises (2$), 1 Fold, Button raises (5.5$), Hero raises to (17$) Button is all-In, Hero calls


      Lets guess some ranges and calculate:
      If his stats were correct i assume he is maybe 3betting something like TT+/AQ. maybe not even AQ all time but lets leave it in. with us having 1 A and 1 K there is 6*TT, 6*JJ, 6*QQ, 3*KK, 3*AA, 12*AQ, 9*AK left in the deck.
      i would guess he 5bets all aces and kings and every second QQ and AK he gets. so our equity against his allin range is 34.2%
      we do need 41/(118.02+0.5+0.25) = 35.5% equity.
      so with the choosen range assumptions the call is super marginally - EV. if he is going broke more often with AK and QQ its ofc better, if he is going broke with those less often it gets worse. once again we at least find out its super close and propably even -EV so we might think just about a different way of playing the hand, prolly calling pre and playing poker, prolly even folding.

      post what u think!
    • YoungBuck311
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      Hey, thx for the coaching again. And im sorry for my bad english. ;)

      As hasenbraten already says, I'm just playing CG SH since some days.

      I learned in this hand more than one thing:

      1. AK is no must 4 bet.
      2. You don't have to go broke with AK if you 4bet (problem is, that this one would be a bluff4bet if i plan to fold)


      So I think there are different ways to play this hand. I don't know yet whats the best opportunity.

      1. 4bet a little bit less, lets say to 14$. Than I deffinitly can fold to a 5bet
      2. 4bet a litte bit higher, so I get better odds to call^^ (so I go broke if villain 3bet to 7$ as well, cause the 4bet is higher too)
      3. fold oop after 3bet of this type of player
      4. call this small 3bet (i dont like cause we play oop), but odds are good. another problem: think i have to go broke with a hit A, or K. Its rarely that I get payout by a worse hand in a 3bet pot. I pay out better hands hardly. For example AA on a Khigh board.
    • hasenbraten
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      Hello People,

      Today i had a great coaching with "doc_sanchez" aka adrian.
      we played as you can see below nl25sh on partypoker. overall he played a bit tight but very good tight aggressive, i like his approach, especially on the flop. however i unfortunately had some technical difficulties with the player, however i did not yet find out where they came from.

      as always, a hand for you to judge:
      Villian is kinda bad, donking lots of flops, generally to loose and spewy

      Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Party Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

      SB ($30.03)
      BB ($19.30)
      Hero ($32.30)
      MP ($22.31)
      Button ($30.36)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with K:club: , A:heart: .
      Hero raises to $1, 2 folds, SB calls $0.90, 1 fold.

      Flop: ($2.25) T:spade: , A:spade: , K:spade: (2 players)
      SB bets $1.5, Hero raises to $6, SB calls $4.50.

      Turn: ($14.25) 5:heart: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $10, SB calls $29.93 (All-In), Hero calls $13.03.
    • TribunCaesar
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      Nice hand. If he has a better hand, there is nothing you can do about it.
    • hasenbraten
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      Hello Forum,

      Tonight we had Coaching with 4A888. He is originally from the german community as well but is also visiting at least my englisch coachings frequently.
      We had to play on Pokerstars since there was nobody who could play on party. Playing nl10sh was quite interesting since the game was a little different from the games on party. unfortunately we did not have that much postflop action over the 1.5 hours but i anyways had a good time. here is a hand for you:

      UTG ($5.55)
      MP ($3.60)
      Hero ($13.20)
      Button ($11.80)
      SB ($11.80)
      BB ($10)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with J:spade: , J:heart: .
      UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.6, 1 fold, SB raises to $1.4, 1 fold, UTG folds, MP folds, Hero calls $0.80.

      Flop: ($3.10) 7:spade: , 9:diamond: , 7:club: (2 players)
      SB bets $4.8, [color=#CC3333]

      Shall we call preflop? and if we do it - do we have to go broke now?