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6max- A4 postflop vs bigstack

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Whysoseriouz
Joined: 07.05.2011
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Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $50(BB) Replayer
SB ($1,245)
Hero ($1,470)
UTG ($1,225)
CO ($3,350)
BTN ($1,710)

Dealt to Hero 4♦ A♠

fold, CO calls $50, fold, SB calls $25, Hero checks

FLOP ($150) Q♥ 8♠ A♥

SB checks, Hero bets $100, CO calls $100, SB folds

TURN ($350) Q♥ 8♠ A♥ 6♣

Hero checks, CO bets $350, Hero calls $350

RIVER ($1,050) Q♥ 8♠ A♥ 6♣ 8♥

Hero checks, CO checks

CO - VPIP: 23, PFR: 10, 3B: 4, AF: 1.6, Hands: 264

lead out flop for value, isolation and info. Check turn because i don't want to play big pot with weak ace + opponent is passive.

His turn bet makes no sense to me. Doesn't need to bet so big to protect vs FD, no sense to bet like that with two pair or set especially after showing weakness with my check. i dont think he's limping from CO with AQ,88,66 or 86. A8 or A6 doesn't need to bet so big....


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007
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When villain is passive you want to bet for value when there are enough worse hands to call. I like flop lead and I would prefer to bet turn. We can still get value from flush draws and decent Qx. Also if we get raised it's easy fold.

I would be somewhat careful with bet size reads. I think more important thing is your passive read on him. So I would tend to fold turn.

So what your plan is if villain bets blank river?


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Whysoseriouz
Joined: 07.05.2011
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for river, if called his big turn bet is because i think im ahead, So if river is blank i would call his bet.


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ghaleon
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Thats ok plan. What did he show up? Absolute air(or like KT) or something solid like AT+?


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Whysoseriouz
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KQs (spades)

...made note that he limps KQs in CO.


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ghaleon
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Ok so he was betting it as value and could have had better hands as well. Important thing to note. This is kind of reason I said to be careful with bet size reads without history.

If we think of his bet it would make sense that he is polarized as I assumed in my earlier question. Now he bets pot with second pair meaning if hero is solid he is basically forced to fold all draws and weaker made hands (if not leveling with something). So in practice villain is semi bluffing even though I assume that he sees it as value betting.


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Whysoseriouz
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thanx for the detailed comments!

Also made note on his sizing.

You think he can make same sizing with draws or TP?


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ghaleon
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He might bet some draws and I don't see why he would not be betting like this with top pair or better as I assume he is value betting his KQ.


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