Guess the hand and win $50! [deadline: 27/12/13]

Villain's hand is strong enough to call a 3-bet OOP (but possibly not strong enough to 4-bet) so pre-flop, it looks a lot like JJ/TT/AQ, although since stacks are deep, he could call with medium pairs or maybe AJs/KQs.
Hero 3-bet vs an UTG open. This is unlikely to be a bluff, so I think he has a monster here. Hero's range is QQ+/AK. On the flop, hero makes a standard c-bet, which he'll do with his entire range, but on a Jxx rainnbow, it's a valuebet, looking to get called by QQ/TT/AJs. Villain check-raises, and I think we can discount bluffs with overcards. QQ and AJ would likely just call, so it looks like a set to me.
Hero just calls the raise, which would usually mean he has AA and doesn't want to give up too soon. (He's beating QQ/TT/AJ). The Q on the turn means AA is now losing to a few more combos. Villain barrels and JJ seems the most likely holding. I would expect hero to fold KK/AA at this point, so it seems like he binked a 2-outer on the turn. There's no need to raise now (as that would also force any random bluffs to fold), so it's just a call down.

I'm pretty sure this is set over set. I'll go with villain having JJ, hero with QQ, but I think the hand would play out in the same way if it was 88 and JJ.

I believe that hero has T9s of clubs. Why? Because it may be our bottom cold calling range against UTG, but it is also in some players' by default 3-bet bluff range. Even if we attack a stronger range, the idea is that we are not dominated in a 3-bet pot and we may 3-bet T9s against UTG as a bluff for playability and freerolling in 3-bet pots when we are called. I don't see our hero 3-betting AT or AJ in this spot. He may 3-bet AQ, besides the pure value range QQ+, AK, but may also 3-bet hands like T9s.

To be realistic, I see 4 type of hands that our hero might have here: AQ, QQ, JJ, T9s. Of course it is also a guessing game, he could play all of them the same. I guess that QQ is bet/calling the flop also, JJ the same, because even if there are some draws left, we want to also mantain villain's weaker range in play. The only hand that might fold the flop is AQ, but I am not sure because villain is representing nothing in this spot. Anyways, let's take off AQ from our hero's range. It remains JJ, QQ, T9s.

I have 33% pot odds for giving the final correct answer T9s, because I guess that there are small chances that maybe on the turn JJ, QQ may even go all in, so that no scary card would kill the action on the river and, second of all, because the board becomes way too drawy.

On the other side, I guess T9s of clubs calls again the turn (no reason for raising) and calldowns basically any river.

So, my final answer is T9s. I am very curious to see the result of the hand.

On the other side, villain might flat our 3-bet with basically any pair for implied odds. But when he is check/raising that board I think he makes that move with JJ or QQ, because he is deep and wants to get value until reaching river. I am not sure even if he would have raised QQ, based on the fact that we are deep and we might also have a premium hand as AA, KK and it is ugly to raise/fold QQ on that board. So I guess that the only legitimate hand villain might have is JJ, which is raising the flop for value and protection.

First week, it should be easy...

UTG raise in 6 hand, we have a 11% opening range, like 22+, ATs+, KQs, AJo+, KQo

Our 3 bet from button, we can take a 6% range, like 77+, ATs+, KQs, AQo+

For Villain call in advance, we can reduce his range to 6%, and we get 77+, AJs and AQ.

In flop, utg go for a check - raise position, it should be a strong hand, and we got range JJ+,88-77,AJs

Hero go for a standard raise, with all his range, but get raised, it makes his range reduce to
JJ,88-77

In turn, UTG raise, and get QQ-JJ,88-77 range, and hero reduce his range to JJ,88

In river, comes an ace, and push from utg are reduced to QQ only.
Hero has reduced options, and only go with JJ.

So, my guess is villain QQ and hero JJ.

Preflop it looks standard for some middle to top pair, AK, AQ and suited conectors.
On flop if villain had pair he chack raised with set, he would fold or call Ax, and only suited conector he would chack-raise and go to all in later is 9 10 but since he betted UTG it's less probable.
Hero probably bet-calls with overpair and since he payed the river it can be QQ or AA.
So I gona go with UTG JJ and Hero QQ

Well first of all, I'd like to point out that we should have a look at the stack sizes since they are- in my opinion - pretty crucial here.

Villain opens from UTG which should give us a pretty standard opening range 6 MAX. Since we have no other information about the type of player villain is, let's assume following not too tight and not too loose opening range:

{ 77+, AJs+, AQo+, KQs }

As already mentioned, villain is pretty deep in this hand, and so is hero. This should change the strategies of hero from time to time since we have plenty of implied odds later in the hand if we should get involved with villain. Being in hero's shoes, I'd 3-bet pre-flop:

{JJ+, AK+}

But since we both are so deep, hero likes to 3-bet some suited connectors or suited broadways as well, since they can flop very hard against villain's 3-bet calling range in this spot. So we can add this to his range in this case:

{67s, 78s, 89s, 9Ts, TJs }

But specifically in this spot, I do think that hero has 9Ts. This is a pretty hand, standard 3-bet or fold given that we are so deep and have massive implieds here.

Now it's back to villain. He decided to call, and since he only calls, we can narrow his range to the following:

{77-QQ, KQs}

although I think that he might decide to 3-bet queens from time to time but given this deep, a call is fine. He will 4-bet {AA-KK}.

The flop is pretty draw heavy. 7 8 J . In this case, I do think that villain will check to the original raiser and check/raise big with his sets given that the board is pretty draw heavy.

That's exactly what happened. Hero has the nuts here, and he should go for maximum value so he bets the flop, and just flats the raise from villain. There is really no need to re-raise since we should give villain rope to hang himself. Besides that, it's very likely that villain has a set. Given that both players are so deep and both have huge implied odds, it's definitely in villain 3-bet calling range pre-flop. If villain has 88 or JJ, he'd stack off on this flop, but he might get away from 77 this deep since set over set is very possible, but also the 9T is definitely in hero's range.

Given ranges, I think that hero only should continue with a set or 9T. There's plenty of ugly cards that could come even though we have position.

On the turn it get's even wetter, and villain decides to bet again. Being hero, we now even more think that villain has a set here. JJ or QQ are almost the only hands with which villain can barrel again so big (+ given the stack sizes !). At the same time, villain is setting up a river shove, so hero really just calls here with the stone cold nuts.

River is a shove, villain shoves JJ or QQ and hero stacks him off with 9T.

Because I have to choose a hand for villain, I'd go for QQ instead of JJ.

So: Hero has 9T, villain has QQ.

After the flop came and Villain re-raised the Hero's c-bet, he probably has some set, and Hero would continue hand with some over pair.

On the turn, Villain bets for value because he has very strong hand and he need to protect it. Hero made call because he think his over pair is still the best hand KK or AA. Hero would probably make fold on the river if Villain bets third time, or would just check behind if V checks.

When the River shows an A, Hero would probably fold his KK, but he calls because he also made a set on the river.

So: Two strong hands before the flop, I guess:
Hero: AA
Villain: JJ

Gest 9Ts make sens, because we are deep.
2nd AA
When he raise flop, u call whit GS, turn perfect to call, no reason to raise, but ii think UTG have some QQ, JJ, 88, 77 here.
Flop, when u have JJ u can call/raise, but u not have JJ, whit QQ, u need to reraise/fold on flop, and KK same, maybe AA its good to call.
QQ, KK is not good to go broke in this flop/not deep.

My guess is KTs (maybe clubs)

He raises in position.
Has a gut shot ont the flop
An OESD on the turn
And the nuts on the river

I'd put the villian on JJ (or some other set)

Played a had just like this lately!

KTcc is my guess.

I would think that of his position he could 3bet with any playable hand KTcc would make most sense ,Hero cbet half pot with gutshot + backdoor flush draw ,On turn if he had KTcc he picked up the OESD + flush draw so pretty easy call on turn and on river he spiked the ace for the Straight , hands like pocket pairs who got sets would 3bet on flop to protect from draws same with overpairs . I guess the utg had pocket 9s and hero KTcc or KTxx .

Hero : T9c
Villain : QQ

PF : UTG standard open / Hero 3bets beacause of stacksizes with T9s ,not expecting to 4bet much.

Flop : villain checks in order to check/raises expecting hero to bet a good part of his bluffs and pair hands (although villain might seriousely doubt that Hero would 3bet Bu vs UTG with AJ/KJ type of hands). After hero just calls deep on a quite draw heavy board I put him on the nuts (9T), sets might already try to get it in here on the flop.

Turn : Villain sees a Q and belives to have the nuts and bets big 3/4, again hero just calls so it is quite improbabile that he has a set, we would most likely try to put his money in on drawheavy boards like that not giving the change to villain to outdraw him.

River : Villain shoves - 200BB = minimum a set, most likely QQ (we would expect him to 4bet KK/AA PF - although we have no clue how he plays), Hero flats T9c.

4 deep player on a normal table ---> there must be a recreational player on the table

deep and "fish" behind UTG-open is wider than usual. so hero could also be lighter then usual, if the tablespot is siting in the blinds heros range is very bluffheavy. would make no sense to 3bet good drawing hands or monsters in this situations.

because of the implieds calling by utg should also be very wide. 4betting oop makes no sense except AA maybe KK, because heros have allways the right odds to call IP.

There is no need to slowplay deep. so T9suited is a good option for UTG.

utg want bet/bluff 3Barrels with a set so deep if hero could easily hold a straight there.
the only hand hero could call F+T and fold R is JT of spades.

if the spot is in the blinds. hero is more likely to hold JJ/QQ
while JJ should fold on the river.

otherwise T9 suited is also a good option for him.

but except T9 of spades, hero would raise the most combination of T9 on the Turn.

UTG: T9suited
HERO: QQ

Hi i hope im doing this,judging that the promo has just been published again a few days back.

Im guesing for both "hero" and the "villain"

So, starting off......Utg bets cose of a value hand he has, the hero raises cose of his position and probably a medium blend card. Villain calls,showing that his hand has value towards other regular hands, which probably intends a pocket. Flop comes and Utg checks and hero bets a bit over half the pot trying to continue and value beting. Villain raises too a pot bet probably notising that a chance of his apponent hiting that J(top pair with a good kicker) or even having an over pair. Probably true the hero does only call,indicating he probably holds a strong hand already, but isnt convinced that the villain has him. The turn comes another draw, and the villain doesnt stop, thinking that even if the hero holds a set of QQQ he cant get rid off him now anymore.So the villain raises again preety high to evaluate how strong the hero realy is, IF so anyway. Hero plain calls, what probably isnt a very good call anymore considering he called the flop to see if the villain realy is that strong,expecting the river to show a brick.But after Q im guesing plain tilt. Calling the villain here is just crazy, exepct if the hero hold 10.9 nuts on flop. Which he doesnt. So the flop was a pure call based on a thought that the villain holds a lower J, and turn call was a desperate one. So the river comes up an A, and the villain showes allin,almost pot value,so hes not holding air, and if he is,it was the best play ive seen in my carrer. Hero calls probably catching that second pair on the river, thinking " the villain cant be better here even though he could have 3 of a kind ;).

So.....My gues, even though there could be more variabels for this isolated case, from K 10, to 10,9 easy.....but reality is that more than many times in this example that the players would be holding something like this::

Hero : A J

Villain : pocket 8

But he could easily be holding pocket 7, the only problem is this......If holding pocket 8, why didnt he 3-bet the PF. And if he has pocket 7, why would he be fearless to the end?...heh. So im going with pocket 8, cose not everyone 3-bet with that hand. So i hope im still on time to post this and if not, i enyoyed this. Its been awhile.

Good day

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