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[Closed] Playing overpairs on the flop . Answer

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hi guys
i have started this thread so we can have a discussion about playing overpairs on the flop against different oponents . When giving your answers take into consideration history , flop texture and image at the table .
we are tag with stats 18/15/2(vpip,pfr,af).
All the tables are shorthanded.

Hand 1 :
Villain is known as a standard tag and seats at two tables with us . His stats are 18/16/2.2/600 (vpip,pfr,af,nh).He saw us raising alot of hands , cbeting and taking the pot without showdown.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG TheReporter ($15.55)
CO Hero ($10.00)
BTN McGerm ($13.60)
SB JohnEdvards ($9.00)
BB WERHATDASGRASWEGGERAUCHT ($4.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is CO A:heart: A:spade:
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.4, McGerm calls $0.4, 2 folds

Flop: 9:diamond: 10:heart: 3:heart: ($0.95, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.9, McGerm raises to $3.6, Hero ?

Hand 2 :
villain seems a very aggressive player . he was raising 3 times on the flop in the last 5 hands and took the pot by barreling the turn

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hoooligan69 ($10.50)
UTG+1 Hero ($11.15)
CO labombardo ($14.70)
BTN aeae39 ($2.50)
SB JonPaulLFC ($5.78)
BB dunkelpokermann ($7.01)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 K:heart: K:spade:
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.4, labombardo calls $0.4, 3 fold

Flop: 8:spade: 3:club: j:heart: ($0.95, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.9, labombardo raises to $3.2, Hero?

Hand 3:
Villain is tight and plays 10/8/1/356 (vpip,pfr,af,nh)

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($10.00)
CO IgotSacked ($12.52)
BTN Legheliel ($12.37)
SB nalencii ($8.00)
BB galning ($12.95)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is UTG K:heart: K:diamond:
Hero raises to $0.4, IgotSacked calls $0.4, 3 folds

Flop: 10:spade: 3:spade: 4:diamond: ($0.95, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.8, IgotSacked raises to $3.2, Hero?

Give your answers in every situation and the reasons behind it
gl


6 replies
TheBrood
Joined: 17.07.2008

Hand 1:
Shove all in since he might think we have nothing based on our previous play and because board is very drawy. Plus we have backdoor nut flush.

Hand 2:
Call this aggro player, if you shove he will fold all worse hands. (I prob c/r turn based on his previous play)

Hand 3:
What is my table image?
Tough hand. He isnt aggro but he raises flop as if protecting his hand. He could have JJ or QQ but unlikely. He probably has a set or a nut FD+oc in which case I fold because I cant continue here oop against a TAG and will prob be commited if I call.


kaisersoze83
Joined: 24.02.2008

Hand 1 :

the flop is very drawheavy, a lot of turns are bad for us, so i reraise AI.

Vs a passive player, i call and chk/fold the turn if he bets big.

Hand 2 :

Villain is very aggressive and the board don't have a lot of draw, so i call the raise on the flop and i chk/raise AI the turn.

Hand 3 :

Villain has only an AF of 1, he is passive postflop.
I call his bet on the flop because a fold here his too weak.
On the turn i play chk/fold if he bets big.

PS1 : i learnt from hasenbraten'video on overpairs.

PS2 : it's a good idea this discussion, can you make this for others hands ?


1. Flop is drawy and re-raise is big. He won´t do that move with total bluff, since we can always suck out with runner-runner flush and we might be ahead then I´d shove here.
2. If villain woudl re-raised to 2$, then I´d like to go small 3-bet to 4$.
Here pot is big if he call and he has potsize left. Not really sure that he´d shove with middle pp here or oesd or Jx. he rather take free card and if he improves then shove/call river. That ś why I like min-3bet and give him chance shoving or if he wants to call with Jx and see what we do on the turn.
3. B/f. WE´re not ahead against nit almost never with overpair.


Solomaextra
Joined: 17.07.2008

1. Raise allin.
2. Call and fold to an ace on the turn or just raise small here, almost same EV.
3. Fold.


kaisersoze83
Joined: 24.02.2008

anyone else ?

answers ?

Can you make a discussion like this on TPTK vs raise flop or turn ?


Tosh5457
Joined: 18.01.2008

1. Shove, he could be drawing and he'd mostly CBH his whole range on the turn, unless he hit his draw.

2. Call and c/r turn. if turn was an ace I'd mostly just c/c turn because he'd fold most hands (Jx, TT). Then river c/c I guess...

3. Fold, i dont see a nit raising with a pair or an overpair, a draw only if it is overcards + FD, and that overcard could be an ace. most of the times he'll have a set though