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Database analysis / Search of errors in strategy (game analysis via 7500 filters)

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Gramond
Joined: 14.05.2009

Database or gameplay analysis:

Category: service for the game analysis, search of leaks
More information: http://www.NotecaddyProTools.com

What is Database analysis / Search of errors in strategy?

  • Database analysis - new opportunity to quickly get the list of errors/leaks in your strategy. You sent the hands to be analyzed, in 6-20 hours you will receive the file with the list of errors and minus actions in your strategy of game.

Technical analysis parameters
Limits: Holdem NL25-NL1k, Omaha PL25-1k (9-max/6-max/HU)
Number of analysable lines: 7502
Game analysis: SRP - Single raised pots/3Bet pots

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Username: Gramond
Role: Developer, CEO

I would like to offer a new possibility to analyze the game that would allow to significantly shorten the time of detecting errors in the strategy that you use.

Instead of spending long and boring hours analyzing your own base and searching for leaks, now you can email your hands and receive a detailed report file with a list of mistakes and places in the game on which you should concentrate.

Description:

The research system allows for the most detailed analysis of the game compared to similar offerings. More than 1600 filters are used, allowing you to identify the line of play in which you have shown a negative profit (minus) or, in some "expensive" lines, an inadequate plus.
Thanks to this method of technical analysis of the game, it is possible to save a significant amount of time, and also the data obtained will help you take a comprehensive look at the game strategy you use and your methods of decision-making.
Game analysis is produced using usual one-on-one pots (SRP 1vs1) and three-bet pots , multipots are not processed.

What is included in the report, statistical data:

After you sent the hands to be analyzed, in 6-20 hours you will receive an email with a report file.
The report is an Excel-file, which contains both general information about your play as a caller and a preflop raiser, as well as data found in the minus lines of four game situations: Caller in position (Caller IP), Caller out of position (Caller OOP), Preflop raiser in position (PFR IP), Preflop raiser out of position (PFR OOP).

Part #1 PreFlop

General information about the preflop raiser/caller game (in/out of position):

  • Resulted profit in bb, on every situation
  • Play statistics against vs 90bb/50bb/40bb

Part #2-5 PostFlop (Caller IP/Caller OOP/PFR IP/PFR OOP)

Main lines of play: Lines with a negative profit

  • Frequency of use (STAT%)
  • Percentage comparison of your profit with similar play of regulars of your limit
  • Amount of samples/amount of situations
  • Percentage comparison of your profit with similar play of regulars of your limit
  • ​​Final line profit in bb

Lines of play divided my hand strength: Value / Medium value / Draw / Bluff

  • Frequency of use (STAT%)
  • Amount of samples/amount of situations
  • ​Final line profit in bb

Using the report:

This study is intended to identify strategy locations where you encounter the greatest "gaps" in the game, and the report clearly shows with what "hands" and in what situations decisions were not sufficiently scrutinized.

«TOTAL» Page: profit data by position, when you play as a caller (Caller IP/OOP) and preflop raiser (PFR IP/OOP), including against different stacks (Total/vs90bb/50bb/40bb).

Example:

TOTAL: -10.1bb/h (-135%)
-10.1bb/h: final profit of the caller while playing in position
- 135%: comparison of the profit with the corresponding indicators of the regulars of your limit
vs40, vs50bb и 90bb: information about play against 35-45bb, 45-55bb and 85-95bb opponents

Caller OOP Page: a list of minus lines as a caller out of position.
The page shows Main lines and separately Lines divided by hand strength (Value / Medium Value / Draw / Bluff).

Example:

Clarification #1: To facilitate the post-flop analysis and to achieve a "visual" understanding of the game, all Main lines of play are supplemented by Lines divided by hand strength, with positive, and negative profit.

Clarification #2: For some variations of plays the sample may be insufficient, therefore in order to produce statistically valid conclusions and to avoid additional errors, a minimum sample threshold for inclusion in the report of 5 cases for each line of play is set for all lines.

Main line of play

Donk two barrels: 45% (-8%) Samples: 36/765 Profit: -170.7bb (107%)
45%: Frequency of use(STAT%)
-8%: Percentage comparison of the frequency of your action with corresponding actions of the regulars of your limit
66/144: Amount of samples/amount of situations
-16,3bb: Final profit of the bb line.
-107%: Percentage comparison of your profit with the corresponding game of regulars of your limit

Number of using filters for making report:
Preflop: 32 items
Single raised pots (SRP)/3Bet pots: 7470 items
Number of hands for analysis:
from 60k to 100k

Price:
$65: NL25/NL50
$85: NL100
$125: NL200
$185: NL400
for NL500+ (information in skype)

Short example of the report: Database_analysis-ENG.xls

Contacts
e-mail: notes@notecaddyprotools.com
skype: NoteCaddy.ProTools

Additional information on site:
http://www.NotecaddyProTools.com


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Gramond
Joined: 14.05.2009

Development came to the end
Now there is a possibility of the analysis of game on "all" lines on Flop,Turn, River in SRP and 3bet pots


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Swish29
Joined: 06.04.2009

Hello, I have a few questions, I hope you might answer them.

TOTAL: -30% Profit: -724.9bb (-35%)
-30%: comparison in percentages of your calling statistics out of position with the corresponding indicators of the regulars of your limit (how more or less often do you call in position, in this example, the player calls 30% less than the average at his limit)

So you compare your client's sample to the sample of other regs? How did you get regs hands in the first place? What tells me you're not going to use my hands then to improve your database?

Say I play Zoom, I send you my hands and I get to be a better player thanks to that, isn't it against PokerStars' T&C?

5.4 EXTERNAL PLAYER ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS (EPA). PokerStars prohibits those External Player Assistance Programs ("EPA Programs") which are designed to provide an "Unfair Advantage" to players. PokerStars defines "External" to mean computer software (other than the Software), and non-software-based databases or profiles (e.g. web sites and subscription services). PokerStars defines an "Unfair Advantage" as any instance in which a User accesses or compiles information on other players beyond that which the User has personally observed through the User's own game play.


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Gramond
Joined: 14.05.2009

Originally posted by Swish29
So you compare your client's sample to the sample of other regs? How did you get regs hands in the first place? What tells me you're not going to use my hands then to improve your database?

Say I play Zoom, I send you my hands and I get to be a better player thanks to that, isn't it against PokerStars' T&C?

Yes, that's right
compare your game with actions of other regs on your limit
even if you play zoom

Saving of private information on the first place, because I do the analysis including for players 1k
I don't provide any information on that who and when did the database analysis
The report will be sent only to you

about PokerStars' T&C .... but you don't use datamining during your game, and this service almost like Leakbuster and this program is legal
I send the list of your errors in game , instead of that how to play against your opponents


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tonypmm
Joined: 11.01.2009

I guess the analysis is done using the client's own hand histories sent, so if they were collected legally (through own play), there's no violation of T&C's.

However, dear Gramond:

1. Why is there no option to choose PLO at the website / checkout? Is the pricing dependent only on the big blind size and not the game type (NLH/PLO) nor the table size? That's strange.

2. Why do you need the customer's HM2 license code at all? Is it the analysis run on their computer (or cloud) and not yours? I think it will boost your bottom line if you start running the analysis on your own hardware (invest a bit into its upgrade), as this way you'll benefit from customers not having NC, who'll then be able to send you HHs to be imported into your DB and used with your copy of NC. In the long run, you'd better switch to Notetracker or custom PT4 stats instead of NC because HM2 DBs can be imported into PT4 but not vice versa (HM2 is getting more and more negative testimonials and people are switching over, let's face it; and it's easier to process DBs than import text HHs in bulk).


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Gramond
Joined: 14.05.2009

Originally posted by tonypmm

1. Why is there no option to choose PLO at the website / checkout? Is the pricing dependent only on the big blind size and not the game type (NLH/PLO) nor the table size? That's strange.

2. Why do you need the customer's HM2 license code at all? Is it the analysis run on their computer (or cloud) and not yours? I think it will boost your bottom line if you start running the analysis on your own hardware (invest a bit into its upgrade), as this way you'll benefit from customers not having NC, who'll then be able to send you HHs to be imported into your DB and used with your copy of NC. In the long run, you'd better switch to Notetracker or custom PT4 stats instead of NC because HM2 DBs can be imported into PT4 but not vice versa (HM2 is getting more and more negative testimonials and people are switching over, let's face it; and it's easier to process DBs than import text HHs in bulk).

I will add PLO in price
and I dont need your HM2 key for database analysis


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Gramond
Joined: 14.05.2009

such analysis very resource-intensive that is why I made analysis on my our computer
this is service ... not a program
you will send to me your hands and I will sent to you report/list of errors

p.s. i dont realy get it about Notetracker and NC
you dont need this programs for correcting your errors in report


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tonypmm
Joined: 11.01.2009

Thanks for the clarification! It's awesome that you do it on your computer.

But your 'simple checkout' page requests a HM2 license code as a mandatory field. It's definitely an error because many of your potential customers don't have a licensed copy of HM2 at all (mostly because they use PT instead).

If you don't require a HM2 license from a customer who has registered at your site, that's fine, but at least add a prompt to register to the 'simple checkout' page. The requirement to input a HM2 code is looking too scary to a non-HM2 user.


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Gramond
Joined: 14.05.2009

Originally posted by tonypmm
Thanks for the clarification! It's awesome that you do it on your computer.

But your simple checkout page requests a HM2 license code as a mandatory field. It's definitely an error because many of your potential customers don't have a licensed copy of HM2 at all (mostly because they use PT instead).

Thanks
in the future I will continue to improve capabilities of the analysis of game
(for examples .... SNG/MTT)

yes yes ... no HM2 serial number for database analysis
HM2 key only for Pro.Tools and Text.Notes


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plusEVqba
Joined: 15.10.2007

I have sent request to "become friends"


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Gramond
Joined: 14.05.2009

Data output updating in the analysis of gameplay:
- more postflop information
- profit in bb/h
- information more clear for understanding
- small increase in accuracy stats


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circe
Joined: 18.03.2005

Would it be ok if I sent to you hands which I exported from my HM2 database?
I don't have access to the original hand history files, because my hard disk crashed.


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Gramond
Joined: 14.05.2009

Originally posted by circe
Would it be ok if I sent to you hands which I exported from my HM2 database?
I don't have access to the original hand history files, because my hard disk crashed.

yes, sure it will be fine


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exactly what you need to go from nl10 to nl16/25


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circe
Joined: 18.03.2005

Originally posted by Gramond

Originally posted by circe
Would it be ok if I sent to you hands which I exported from my HM2 database?
I don't have access to the original hand history files, because my hard disk crashed.

yes, sure it will be fine

Thank you very much for your reply. A few minutes ago I sent you my Paypal payment and my hand history files.

With kind regards

Christian


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Gramond
Joined: 14.05.2009

Originally posted by wazawanga
exactly what you need to go from nl10 to nl16/25

if I correctly understood you
for moving from NL10 to NL25 you must know exactly your preflop ranges
and hard working on postflop gameplay


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