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[Closed] Nl200 SH- 4bet flat called

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gggeorgio
Joined: 05.09.2007

Stacks:
UTG bobbysox ($246.93)
UTG+1 gdogg007 ($241.39)
CO AAnkerias ($384.90)
BTN Hero ($197.00)
SB YarBooSux ($307.55)
BB _Colette ($590.50)

Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is BTN Q♥ A♦
3 folds, Hero raises to $7, YarBooSux calls $6, _Colette raises to $31, Hero raises to $70, YarBooSux folds, _Colette calls $39

Flop: 3♣ A♠ 8♥ ($147, 2 players)
_Colette checks, Hero bets $60, _Colette folds

_Colette: 32/24 af3, 3bet 7, 140 hands

If I remember right this guy seemed to be 3betting me loose, so I decided to stick in a 4bet preflop. I have 2 questions:

1) If _colette now shoves preflop I'm probably crushed (this person has never seen me 4bet, so should give me respect) so is it an easy fold even though I'm getting a little better than 2:1 ?

2)I really wasn't sure what to do on the flop, all I knew was that I was willing to get it in...if he has AK/AA thats too bad. At the time I decided a small bet might induce a call/shove from hands like KK/QQ/JJ because I frequently cbet and it could look like I'm taking 1 last stab at the pot. I don't think this was good at all though because I'd say it looks pretty obvious that I'm committed. The way I see it now, I could either have shoved the flop or checked to induce something on the turn. Is this an accurate analysis?


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Agiz19
Joined: 19.03.2007

NH. I think you did everything right.


TribunCaesar
Joined: 29.04.2007

Originally posted by gggeorgio

1) If _colette now shoves preflop I'm probably crushed (this person has never seen me 4bet, so should give me respect) so is it an easy fold even though I'm getting a little better than 2:1 ?

What????? Please.....don't!!! If that's your plan, take 27o to do so but not AQ. If you are not willing to get it in preflop, then just call AQ but do not 4bet. If he shoves you should SNAPCALL. ^^

Originally posted by gggeorgio
2)I really wasn't sure what to do on the flop, all I knew was that I was willing to get it in...if he has AK/AA thats too bad. At the time I decided a small bet might induce a call/shove from hands like KK/QQ/JJ because I frequently cbet and it could look like I'm taking 1 last stab at the pot. I don't think this was good at all though because I'd say it looks pretty obvious that I'm committed. The way I see it now, I could either have shoved the flop or checked to induce something on the turn. Is this an accurate analysis?

Is the opponent aggressive, pays out weird lines and is willing to bluff? If so, I like checking a lot. You could also make a so called "gay-bet" of let's say $30 to induce a shove. ^^ Shoving is also an option of course.

Best regards,
TribunCaesar


gggeorgio
Joined: 05.09.2007

ok, I see your point for preflop...this is why I asked the question, because I felt like something wasn't right with my thinking :tongue:


xylere
Joined: 28.05.2007

4bet/fold is a value waste, obviously)
on the flop, it seems to me you are clearly in wa/wb situation, therefore, I don't like shove
I would often try to induce something, likely by checking
but small bet is also ok