Save your Big Blind - A Platinum course with oblioo

    • oblioo
      oblioo
      Coach
      Coach
      Joined: 02.10.2012 Posts: 338
      Hello again! As a follow-up to my recent Small Blind course, I will now be doing a 3-session course on playing from the big blind. Here is the schedule:

      Target group: Advanced players NL50+, Platinum+
      Time:
      April 30th @ 1pm EST: Flatting OOP - what should our preflop defending ranges look like, and how to proceed postflop
      May 7th @ 1pm EST: 3betting OOP - what our 3betting ranges can/should look like, and how to proceed postflop
      May 14th @ instead of the SB-BB play, we'll have a free show of the Semi Final of the HU Championship!

      As always please post HHs in this thread for us to review!
      Talk to you soon,
      Dustin
  • 13 replies
    • oblioo
      oblioo
      Coach
      Coach
      Joined: 02.10.2012 Posts: 338
      Please start posting hands in this thread for today's session, preferably ones where you flat OOP in the BB!
    • patuxz
      patuxz
      Platinum
      Joined: 23.05.2014 Posts: 86
      Got a couple of questions about this hand. I have tagged villain as a tight reg. 44% WWSF, 26% WTSD, Cbet flop 57%, Fold to flop raise 38%
      1) Do we call pre?
      2) Flop play? I think calling works best, our hand might not be strong enough to check/raise.
      3) Can we donk turn? Do we bluff river if called?

      Microgaming - €2 NL - Holdem - 7 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      UTG+1: 296.86 BB (VPIP: 36.98, PFR: 24.53, 3Bet Preflop: 8.62, Hands: 273)
      MP: 128.38 BB (VPIP: 27.74, PFR: 20.33, 3Bet Preflop: 7.34, Hands: 1,771)
      CO: 131.42 BB (VPIP: 16.48, PFR: 9.59, 3Bet Preflop: 1.69, Hands: 1,233)
      BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.42, PFR: 14.87, 3Bet Preflop: 5.11, Hands: 1,384)
      SB: 115 BB (VPIP: 27.67, PFR: 21.45, 3Bet Preflop: 7.74, Hands: 1,103)
      Hero (BB): 108.88 BB
      UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 29.48, PFR: 24.40, 3Bet Preflop: 10.36, Hands: 3,072)

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J:heart: K:heart:

      fold, fold, MP raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BB

      Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) 3:club: 7:club: 4:heart:
      Hero checks, MP bets 3.5 BB, Hero calls 3.5 BB

      Turn: (12.5 BB, 2 players) 5:spade:
      Hero bets 9 BB, fold
    • DeanD
      DeanD
      Black
      Joined: 27.12.2009 Posts: 3,557
      Hello,

      Hand is against a loose reg, 66 OR on the BTN, Cbet flop 81%, turn cbet 48%, river cbet 71%/26% riv aggr, 639 handsPKR,

      $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: $59.88 (59.9 bb)
      Hero (BB): $100 (100 bb)
      UTG: $34.20 (34.2 bb)
      MP: $129.20 (129.2 bb)
      CO: $62.76 (62.8 bb)
      BTN: $104.20 (104.2 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with A 7
      3 folds, BTN raises to $2, SB folds, Hero calls $1

      Flop: ($4.50) 9 T 5 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $3.37, Hero calls $3.37

      Turn: ($11.24) A (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $8.43, Hero calls $8.43

      River: ($28.10) J (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $22.55, Hero?

      calls $22.55

      Results: $73.20 pot ($3 rake)
      Final Board: 9 T 5 A J
      Hero mucked A 7 and lost (-$36.35 net)
      BTN showed 8 Q and won $70.20 ($33.85 net)


      Regards,
      Dean
    • AlphaVillain
      AlphaVillain
      Bronze
      Joined: 09.10.2014 Posts: 368
      • 30.04.2015, 17:44
      • This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by AlphaVillain: 30.04.2015 17:45.
      Villain is the defender. I have a LAG image.

      PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 116.02 BB (VPIP: 13.60, PFR: 8.11, 3Bet Preflop: 2.87, Hands: 16,253)
      Hero (SB): 100 BB
      BB: 97.46 BB (VPIP: 11.43, PFR: 8.21, 3Bet Preflop: 3.83, Hands: 32,128)
      UTG: 102 BB (VPIP: 24.10, PFR: 18.29, 3Bet Preflop: 5.51, Hands: 30,273)
      UTG+1: 107.52 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
      MP: 85.28 BB (VPIP: 18.99, PFR: 9.01, 3Bet Preflop: 3.07, Hands: 721)
      MP+1: 100 BB (VPIP: 14.79, PFR: 11.96, 3Bet Preflop: 4.46, Hands: 14,909)
      MP+2: 100 BB (VPIP: 13.40, PFR: 10.60, 3Bet Preflop: 4.40, Hands: 21,189)
      CO: 87.46 BB (VPIP: 22.80, PFR: 10.91, 3Bet Preflop: 0.90, Hands: 1,887)

      Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J:heart: J:diamond:

      fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

      Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) T:diamond: 9:club: 2:spade:
      Hero bets 3.8 BB, BB raises to 11 BB, Hero calls 7.2 BB

      Turn: (28 BB, 2 players) 5:diamond:
      Hero checks, BB bets 15 BB, Hero calls 15 BB

      River: (58 BB, 2 players) 6:diamond:
      Hero checks, BB bets 37 BB, Hero calls 37 BB

      BB shows K:diamond: J:club: (High Card, King)
      (Pre 32%, Flop 29%, Turn 16%)
      Hero shows J:heart: J:diamond: (One Pair, Jacks)
      (Pre 68%, Flop 71%, Turn 84%)
      Hero wins 127 BB
    • mysteryman21
      mysteryman21
      Platinum
      Joined: 18.09.2010 Posts: 3,011
      fr table, villian possible fish, but could be reg 16/12 25h
      I see people like to do some stupid stuff vs strange lines, mostly regs though

      Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: $66.59 (133.2 bb)
      Hero (BB): $51.13 (102.3 bb)
      UTG+1: $50 (100 bb)
      UTG+2: $51.42 (102.8 bb)
      MP1: $173.57 (347.1 bb)
      MP2: $54.42 (108.8 bb)
      MP3: $51.68 (103.4 bb)
      CO: $141.54 (283.1 bb)
      BTN: $58.09 (116.2 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with A A
      UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to $1.50, 6 folds, Hero raises to $5, UTG+2 calls $3.50

      Flop: ($10.25) 5 2 T (2 players)
      Hero checks, UTG+2 checks

      Turn: ($10.25) 6 (2 players)
      Hero bets $5.75, UTG+2 calls $5.75

      River: ($21.75) 6 (2 players)
      Hero bets $40.38 and is all-in, UTG+2 folds

      Results:
      $21.75 pot ($0.98 rake)
      Final Board: 5 2 T 6 6
      Hero mucked A A and won $20.77 ($10.02 net)
      UTG+2 mucked and lost (-$10.75 net)
    • patuxz
      patuxz
      Platinum
      Joined: 23.05.2014 Posts: 86
      Hey, here's a hand for next week.
      It's played on anonymous tables, I don't remember reads.
      How do we play a connected board like this? There are many bad turn cards (7x 9x Qx) and we could be beaten already. So I would say it's hard to get 3 streets of value. Hands we would get value from (T9 QJs 89s) all have a lot of equity against us. Help me oblioo :f_cool:

      Microgaming - €2 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      MP: 153.76 BB
      CO: 100 BB
      BTN: 99.63 BB
      SB: 341.92 BB
      Hero (BB): 210.5 BB
      UTG: 109.65 BB

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:spade: A:club:

      fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, MP calls 7 BB

      Flop: (20.5 BB, 2 players) J:heart: T:club: 8:spade:
      Hero bets 16 BB, MP calls 16 BB

      Turn: (52.5 BB, 2 players) Q:spade:
      Hero checks, MP bets 26 BB, Hero calls 26 BB

      River: (104.5 BB, 2 players) 4:diamond:
      Hero checks, MP bets 101.76 BB and is all-in, fold
    • patuxz
      patuxz
      Platinum
      Joined: 23.05.2014 Posts: 86
      If you don't mind here's another interesting hand.
      Played on anon tables. Both are regs, I would not squeeze this if there was fish in the pot.
      So my questions:
      1) Do we cbet flop? I think it's ok for protection, almost ½ the deck are overcards for us.
      2) How would you play the turn? We can either double barrel, check/call or check/raise for value or as a semi-bluff.

      Microgaming - €2 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      UTG: 79.78 BB
      MP: 100 BB
      CO: 100 BB
      BTN: 114.95 BB
      SB: 86.28 BB
      Hero (BB): 119.58 BB

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9:diamond: 6:diamond:

      fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold, BTN calls 9 BB

      Flop: (27.5 BB, 2 players) 2:diamond: 4:club: 9:club:
      Hero bets 15 BB, BTN calls 15 BB

      Turn: (57.5 BB, 2 players) 5:spade:
      Hero checks, BTN checks

      River: (57.5 BB, 2 players) 7:spade:
      Hero checks, BTN checks

      Hero shows 9:diamond: 6:diamond: (One Pair, Nines)
      (Pre 41%, Flop 77%, Turn 89%)
      BTN mucks 4:diamond: A:diamond: (One Pair, Fours)
      (Pre 59%, Flop 23%, Turn 11%)
      Hero wins 56 BB
    • CosimoFelice
      CosimoFelice
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.08.2011 Posts: 1
      Hello everyone I'm new here, and hope to learn something for the better!

      BU is 27/20 over 939 hands with 71% fold to 3bet
      btn open 50%, f3b 53%, total 4bet range 1%
      bet vs missed cb 50%, turn agg 35%, river agg 33%

      I have these notes on him:
      bluff xr AAx flop with K high
      overbets river with set on flush runout

      Should i just call turn and xjam river instead of raising turn?

      I block some of his backdoor flushdraws and i will always stack other 7x

      Play hand

      $0.5/$1 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

      Known players:
      SB:
      $100.00
      BB (Hero):
      $142.91
      MP3:
      $100.00
      CO:
      $145.61
      BU:
      $116.89


      Preflop: Hero is BB with A, 7.
      2 folds, BU raises to $2.25, SB folds, Hero raises to $8.00, BU calls $5.75.

      Flop: ($16.5) 7, 3, 7 (2 players)
      Hero bets $8.00, BU calls $8.00.

      Turn: ($32.5) 9 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU bets $13.00, Hero raises to $30.00, BU folds, Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $45.5.
    • oblioo
      oblioo
      Coach
      Coach
      Joined: 02.10.2012 Posts: 338
      This is soon, please start posting hands where you're in the BB, preferably 3bet pots!
    • xmiammiamx
      xmiammiamx
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.12.2011 Posts: 12
      • 07.05.2015, 17:33
      • This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by xmiammiamx: 07.05.2015 17:34.
      Against an unknown at 25NL zoom. Not sure my river call is the greatest.

      https://www.weaktight.com/h/554ba11ca52511c62c8880ed
    • patuxz
      patuxz
      Platinum
      Joined: 23.05.2014 Posts: 86
      • 12.05.2015, 09:42
      • This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by patuxz: 12.05.2015 09:49.
      Hey. Pretty standard hand vs fish. He makes a weird blocker bet on the river, which is not even a shove. I wonder if I should bluff catch?
      His stats are: limp SB 50%, SB RFI 28%, Fold to F cbet 47%, turn 53%. Bet river 43%, WSD 43%. Notes "Can bluff rivers ½ pot, slowplays"
      Few questions:

      1) What do you think about SB limp range, assuming fish has RFI range? Is it weak hands like T5s 57o?
      2) What is good bet sizing plan with this hand? I think betting big would be good on the flop. Overcards are bad for his calling range and we get maximum value vs draws. On low card we get maximum value vs 8x 6x, and I think this fish will check/fold if he misses the flop. Therefore I think we should bet big.

      Microgaming - €4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      Hero (BB): €400.00
      CO: €494.90 (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 100.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
      BTN: €511.70 (VPIP: 30.29, PFR: 22.63, 3Bet Preflop: 4.84, Hands: 280)
      SB: €173.00 (VPIP: 53.72, PFR: 17.95, 3Bet Preflop: 9.94, Hands: 743)

      SB posts SB €2.00, Hero posts BB €4.00

      Pre Flop: (pot: €6.00) Hero has A:spade: T:spade:

      fold, fold, SB calls €2.00, Hero raises to €16.00, SB calls €12.00

      Flop: (€32.00, 2 players) 6:spade: A:club: 8:spade:
      SB checks, Hero bets €18.00, SB calls €18.00

      Turn: (€68.00, 2 players) 9:diamond:
      SB checks, Hero bets €42.00, SB calls €42.00

      River: (€152.00, 2 players) 5:club:
      SB bets €68.00, fold
      (NOT A SHOVE!!!)
    • oblioo
      oblioo
      Coach
      Coach
      Joined: 02.10.2012 Posts: 338
      Hi all,

      I apologize but the last part of this course (that was scheduled for the 14th) has been cancelled. I look forward to continuing to make training videos here at PokerStrategy, but will likely not be doing live group coaching sessions for the foreseeable future.

      Best,
      Dustin
    • SvenBe
      SvenBe
      Headadmin
      Headadmin
      Joined: 19.04.2006 Posts: 13,467
      Originally posted by oblioo
      Hi all,

      I apologize but the last part of this course (that was scheduled for the 14th) has been cancelled. I look forward to continuing to make training videos here at PokerStrategy, but will likely not be doing live group coaching sessions for the foreseeable future.

      Best,
      Dustin
      He oblioo,
      thx for the post!
      Indeed we will have a HU Championship broadcast tomorrow instead.
      Furthermore I am sure that many users will like the PokerSnowie analysis that we still have in stock. Also looking forward to the new video ideas!