[Closed] 66 vs a loose raiser in late position

If you look at the SHC you can see that a raise and a call should be called with 66. After you there would have been a 3bet and a cap and you should fold then. Not much more to say there.

i agree with the first sentence kimber said but imo it doesn´t make sence to coldcall a raise but then fold to a 3-bet and a cap because your odds are much better and your payoff will be better as well if you hit your set. or did i missread something ?

maybe have another look at the shc gambit. afair the KQ hand was missplayed preflop as well

the charts actually do say that you can call one raise behind you, but should fold to a raise + reraise behind you

(at least the basic and the bronze do, don't know about the silver)

i will have a look at it but imo that doesn´t make sence (with pockets)

just to make sure i got it right:
we are talking about something like this:
everybody folds, MP3 raises, CO coldcalls, HERO coldcalls, SB folds, BB 3-bets, MP3 caps, CO calls/fold, HERO ?
right ?

sometimes its just a bit confusing lol and eysterday I wasnt playing like I normally do ..sadly

Originally posted by frzl
i will have a look at it but imo that doesn´t make sence (with pockets)

just to make sure i got it right:
we are talking about something like this:
everybody folds, MP3 raises, CO coldcalls, HERO coldcalls, SB folds, BB 3-bets, MP3 caps, CO calls/fold, HERO ?
right ?

Folding here would be indeed stuipid. This needs to be corrected as you have to coldcall 2 bets again with better odds with which you can draw to a set.

Can somebody give me a link to this article?

http://www.pokerstrategy.com/strategy/fixed-limit/793/3/

After reading that again it actually doesn't say what to do if there is another raise preflop.

I've had a similar problem recently where I've made an error pre flop by calling a raise - re-raise. Mine was a LOT more obvious than this example but I made the error because of what I think is ambiguity in the Bronze article "Preflop: Advanced Play Before the Flop".

Is there any chance of having these situations clarified in the article? I think there will be a lot of errors being made due to a lack of clarity.

And frankly I just about need everything bold typed, double spaced in 26 point fonts to avoid making errors

To be clear... we are calling ANY PP preflop to two bets, but folding some PP to just a raise? Which PP would we fold here? 88 or lower?

Sorry, I'm not sure I follow the correct play and I know this is an error I'm making at the moment. Thanks for any further clarification folks

Originally posted by Waiboy
To be clear... we are calling ANY PP preflop to two bets, but folding some PP to just a raise? Which PP would we fold here? 88 or lower?

Sorry, I'm not sure I follow the correct play and I know this is an error I'm making at the moment. Thanks for any further clarification folks

No we aren't coldcalling any pocketpair. But if you do you don't fold it anymore preflop.
Did I understood you correctly or is something still unclear?

@Kimer88: Thank you for the link I will forward it to our article writers.

Originally posted by ciRith

Originally posted by Waiboy
To be clear... we are calling ANY PP preflop to two bets, but folding some PP to just a raise? Which PP would we fold here? 88 or lower?

Sorry, I'm not sure I follow the correct play and I know this is an error I'm making at the moment. Thanks for any further clarification folks

No we aren't coldcalling any pocketpair. But if you do you don't fold it anymore preflop.
Did I understood you correctly or is something still unclear?

Cool, thanks ciRith - just perhaps a misreading on my part... once in with a pocketpair preflop we're calling to a CAP. Clear as. ♦