double2's Emergency Room: Hands under Review

The first coaching is already this Thursday at 8pm CET. We will talk a bit about what to expect from this ER experience and talk through some hands. Post questions/hands in this thread.

Remember, if more people shows up at the coachings and participates in this thread we will be able to do more coachings/videos and prolong this endeavor, your participation and presence matter.

See you soon.

Hi double2,

this sounds fun! I would like to know which hands we should call cold vs 3bet and which we should 4bet. I play NL10 and 4betting is not very common there. How does our cold call and 4bet ranges change if there is players behind us? Your coaching this Thursday is for gold members. Will there be any for silver members or do I have to start grinding?

I love this.

Originally posted by la55i
Hi double2,

this sounds fun! I would like to know which hands we should call cold vs 3bet and which we should 4bet. I play NL10 and 4betting is not very common there. How does our cold call and 4bet ranges change if there is players behind us? Your coaching this Thursday is for gold members. Will there be any for silver members or do I have to start grinding?
There was already a coaching from double2 about this topic, if u cant watch it because of your status, u can add me in the community and i will help u.

sound good would be great to see some more 'post microstakes' 25+ content to follow your getting out the micros - "starting on small stakes"

Some points that i'm interested in i've listed below but i'll only post some hands the other points next week or something because I don't want to spam the thread

- 3Bet / SQ pots plan on wet boards that favour the caller (see the hand examples)
Constructing a good plan postflop when I feel like villian has a set or two pair every time I see these flops
When to cbet & sizings 100BB's deep? When to check call, or check raise?

- Facing a squeeze in position
MP/CO opens, we cold call on BTN around 12-15% range and get squeezed from a reg in SB/BB
RFI folds, how do we work out our calling range and some examples of post flop (LLL,Q9x,ATx,Axx)
RFI calls, how do we work out our calling range and some examples of post flop

- Defend by 4betting in CO/BTN (assume reg who is 3betting enough [btn 8-10% / sb/bb 10-15%]
sizing OOP/IP, range construction
Post flop play when to cbet / check back equity

check call vs cbet when OOP
when should i be doing this with the majority of my range? e.g. TPMK
who should i do this against and when is it better to just cbet?

Originally posted by la55i
Hi double2,

this sounds fun! I would like to know which hands we should call cold vs 3bet and which we should 4bet. I play NL10 and 4betting is not very common there. How does our cold call and 4bet ranges change if there is players behind us? Your coaching this Thursday is for gold members. Will there be any for silver members or do I have to start grinding?

Hi, check out this video that answers most of your questions: http://www.pokerstrategy.com/video/35560/

First section about 3B on middling boards and discussing our plan & thought processes OTF. I don't really want to talk alot about the preflop if I should 3B QT or QJ more focus on postflop would be great unless it's a huge mistake pre to avoid it but i don't really the specific hand makes the difference in these spots

Hand 1) AK QTx not really sure if I should be betting or check calling
Hand 2) AK ATxss
Hand 3) AJ JJ9 - planning a bet flop jam turn but the ten sucks now I only bet a few combos of KJ,QJ...
Hand 4) The runout is getting worse & worse and I feel like my plan to bet until I get raised but not sure that's very solid

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

SB: 333.28 BB (VPIP: 24.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)
Hero (BB): 127.32 BB
MP: 88.88 BB (VPIP: 46.15, PFR: 23.08, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 13)

Hero has K♦ A♥

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 2.6 BB, Hero raises to 12 BB, MP calls 9 BB, SB calls 9 BB

Flop: (36 BB, 3 players) 2♣ T♠ Q♥
SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets 17.2 BB, fold, Hero calls 17.2 BB

Turn: (70.4 BB, 2 players) K♣ Hero checks, checks

River: (70.4 BB, 2 players) K♥
Hero bets 33.6 BB, MP calls 33.6 BB

Hero shows K♦ A♥ (Three of a Kind, Kings) Hero wins 131.4 BB
MP mucks Q♣ A♣ (Two Pair, Kings and Queens)

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 14.83, PFR: 9.89, 3Bet Preflop: 3.64, Hands: 268)
SB: 114.48 BB (VPIP: 15.53, PFR: 14.08, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 208)
Hero (BB): 116.76 BB
UTG: 103.8 BB (VPIP: 26.04, PFR: 18.34, 3Bet Preflop: 8.62, Hands: 170)
MP: 181.6 BB (VPIP: 16.95, PFR: 15.25, 3Bet Preflop: 4.62, Hands: 185)
CO: 119.96 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♠ K♥

hero is dealt A♠ K♥

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 12 BB, MP calls 9 BB, CO calls 9 BB

Flop: (36.4 BB, 3 players) A♦ T♥ 3♥
Hero bets 16 BB, fold, CO raises to 38 BB

hero???

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

Hero (SB): 104.4 BB
UTG: 103.52 BB (VPIP: 36.36, PFR: 31.17, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 79)
MP: 146.12 BB (VPIP: 14.37, PFR: 11.18, 3Bet Preflop: 4.81, Hands: 518)
CO: 96 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)

Hero has J♣ A♦

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold, UTG calls 9 BB, CO calls 9 BB

Flop: (37 BB, 3 players) J♠ J♥ 9♣
Hero bets 20 BB, fold, calls 20 BB

Turn: (77 BB, 2 players) T♠
Hero checks, CO bets 37 BB

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 259.6 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 75.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
CO: 199.84 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)

Hero has T♦ Q♦

fold, fold, CO raises to 2 BB, BTN calls 2 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, calls 8 BB, calls 7 BB, fold

Flop: (29 BB, 3 players) T♣ Q♣ 8♠
Hero bets 15.2 BB, BB calls 15.2 BB, fold

Turn: (59.4 BB, 2 players) 7♠
Hero bets 31.16 BB, BB calls 31.16 BB

River: (121.72 BB, 2 players) 9♣
Hero???? check fold?

Great start by mattyvx. Let's follow it up guys. You can put your opinion on mattyvx hands/suggestions (I will try to give you specific feedback on your answer) or you can post more questions/suggestions/hands.

Should i C-bet this flop?

@mattyvx
1st hand i think it is not good to c-bet on that flop. I also think we can x/f vs 2opp.
2nd hand i would fold
3rd hand we can call turn and call river depending on size ?! it seems that villain can be a weak player since he does not have a full stack. also he called a raise and then called a 3bet oop.
4th hand i would go for 2/3 flop bet and 1/2 turn bet and x/f river.

thanks for comments bonecore,

hand 1 - what about heads up?
hand 3 - what can he really have that we beat appart from KJ,QJ, mayybe 88...QT? but i'm not sure about that
4th hand - getting it in vs flop or turn raise?

Would also like to pick hand 1 or 4 and do some range analysis for how we would play some of our hands and why

Originally posted by mattyvx
hand 1 - what about heads up?

I would bet, we block AQ and KQ and have the gutshot to the nuts.

Guys, I'd like to ask something to everyone that's planning to take active participation in these Academy.

Make a post stating the current stakes you are playing and explain 2 or 3 problems that you think you have in your game. Like "I'm not sure how to play after I check/call as PFR with a weak top pair like in this example, etc" or "having trouble figuring out how to proceed when I face a 4bet after I 3bet KQ BBvBU". Stuff like that.

This will make the first coaching more interesting. Come on, get your hands out of your pockets and start typing.

this is pretty hype, i'll try to fit it in. for now i will comment

1) xf, you are not gonna have a good time oop. since you hit the miracle runout just bet bigger otr
2) pretty sick, just 3b gii since he might be fishy and ship fd or Ax
3) shove? this is just too strong to fold in this spr
4) yeah exactly, xf

Hello,

I am playing NL10 and my current problems are my opponents, more exactly which hands are more profitable vs some opponents that are like 30% tight or 70% tight. They are not in the middle, but not in the extremes. (instead of tight they can be aggressive or weak or whatever, just not in the middle and not in extremes)

Vs these guys how to construct exploitative:
-opening raising ranges
-iso-raising ranges
-3bet ranges
-calling ranges

Hi double2,

here a spot, I think I normally have some problems with.
Villan donks the river into us (after we did cbet flop and turn). I think in general I do not call wide enough there to avoid autoprofit for villain.
Here an example hand:

MP: $25.44
CO: $25.12
Hero (BTN): $29.68
SB: $10.10
BB: $25.00
UTG: $8.90

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has K♣ K♠

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.50, fold, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.10, 2 players) Q♣ 8♦ 5♣
BB checks, Hero bets $0.72, BB calls $0.72

Turn: ($2.54, 2 players) 7♠
BB checks, Hero bets $1.75, BB calls $1.75

River: ($6.04, 2 players) 4♦
BB bets $5.75,

If we do not defend 51% of our turn 2nd barrel range, villain gets autoprofit with his bet there. Often the turn 2nd barrel range consists approximately 50:50% value and bluff hands, means on a river blank, and villain donks potsize on the river, we have to call all of our turn "value hands". Personally I think I do overfold often because im not calling all of my turn value bets there.
What do you think about the spot in general (defending vs river donk after 2nd barrel turn)? How wide is your calling range on the river? Can we overfold exploitative?

In example hand, villain is a reg, but not enough sample on him for meaningful river stats. He defends only 13% with a call in BB vs steal so i think he has max 8 combos of 6x in his river range (2xA6s, 3x86s, 3x76s). Whats your river calling range in the spot? It's not my favorite call there with the KcKx, because of blocking some possible bluffs in his range. But folding the 3 KcKx (and 3 AcAx) combos there would mean I fold around 2/3 of my range, so it has to be a call imo.

Another question: What do you think about using spots like the example hand to exploit the population with a donk bet, because on such a river, many players tend to overfold, imo?

Should I raise the flop? I thought that with this line I maximize my winnings vs pp > TT. Being 200bb deep and having the nuts, I have to put all the money in by the river.

On the other hand I prevent villain of possible bluffing later streets, or hit his over cards. Of course my range here is super transparent, since I flat mostly pp to set mine. AQs, KQs, and some scs given we are deep.

But do I raise bluff? Do I want to raise my sets?
In Villain's shoes raising should look very strong.

Having that said I don't expect him to care and I expect him to level some of the times.

Villain is 27/19/Afq:40,36,25 / Sq from sb: 8, WTSD: 27 over 20K hands.

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $103.17 (206.3 bb)
BB: $72 (144 bb)
UTG: $52.01 (104 bb)
Hero (MP): $104.75 (209.5 bb)
CO: $108.65 (217.3 bb)
BTN: $50.50 (101 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 9 9
UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.25, CO calls $1.25, BTN folds, SB raises to $5.50, BB folds, Hero calls $4.25, CO folds

Flop: ($12.75) 9 2 4 (2 players)
SB bets $8.03, Hero raises to $25, SB calls $16.97

Turn: ($62.75) 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $39.76, SB raises to $72.67 and is all-in, Hero calls $32.91

River: ($208.09) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $208.09 pot ($2.50 rake)
Final Board: 9 2 4 4 8
SB showed 9 A and lost (-$103.17 net)
Hero showed 9 9 and won $205.59 ($102.42 net)

Thanks for this initiative!

Re topics to discuss during coachings - I would be interested in what I am currently focusing on mainly myself, i.e.:

Postflop play, esp. construction of postflop ranges - how to play different types of hands depending on:
- the board texture (dry vs drawy, whose range it hits better),
- preflop action (PFA vs PFC),
- position (IP vs OOP),
- HU vs MWP,
- SRP, 3BP, 4BP
... by streets, vs villains (actual/expected) actions.

how do i play against random unknown recreationals? the main problem is that their ranges and behavior vary so much so i am not very sure what to do, but i want to be much wider than "gto" as well.
here's a standard dumb spot

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 109.34 BB
UTG: 114.18 BB
MP: 100 BB
Hero (CO): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♣ J♠

UTG raises to 2 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 7 BB

Flop: (19.5 BB, 2 players) 2♦ K♥ T♠
UTG checks, Hero bets 10.24 BB, UTG calls 10.24 BB

Turn: (39.98 BB, 2 players) 7♠
UTG checks, ...

so, which range do we 3bet-iso by default, which flops do they connect with?
in this hand, 2barrel this? sizing?

About the coaching being gold and should be for nl50 or so... and choosing the theme that would help a nl50 player.

My opinion is that all players lack fundamental principles.
If we understand the principle behind a plan or idea then we can use it.
Otherwise all the knowledge we gather goes into our C-game because we use what we learn in spots where it is not the case.

Will be interesting to see what lesson we will have next week.
Like i said , my main problem is when i decide to play a hand or not.

Do i have enough Realisable Showdown equity ?
Do i have Steal equity?
Are the equities combined making the hand profitable?
I have prepared some material for this a few weeks ago. Maybe you guys can have some opinions :