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[Closed] NL100SH : Monsterdraw backed off

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$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
4 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
CO ($284.72)
BTN ($113.36)
SB ($91.85)
Hero (BB) ($114.50)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 4 players) Hero is BB 9♣ T♣
1 fold, BTN raises to $4, SB calls $3.50, Hero calls $3

Flop: Q♦ J♣ 3♣ ($12, 3 players)
SB bets $11.40, Hero raises to $45.60, BTN folds, SB calls $34.20

Turn: 5♥ ($103.20, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: A♠ ($103.20, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks


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on the turn you will have 40$ efective stacks with an 100$ pot
i shove turn


Originally posted by srohack
on the turn you will have 40$ efective stacks with an 100$ pot
i shove turn

I knew that I only had less than half pot behind, but fold equity would have been near zero imo and the move EV-


Any info about villain?


TribunCaesar
Joined: 29.04.2007

I like to squeeze here preflop. As played I raise the flop a little bit smaller ~ 30, pot will be ~70 on the turn and he has around 60 left. Nice size to shove. As played I still shove the turn.

Best regards,
TribunCaesar


Myrddin84
Joined: 23.05.2007

And what about a river push on that ace after Vilain's check ? Wouldn't it get loads of fold equity ? With 0 showdown value, I think i would make that against thinking players, we can represent the ace easily.


Originally posted by Myrddin84
And what about a river push on that ace after Vilain's check ? Wouldn't it get loads of fold equity ? With 0 showdown value, I think i would make that against thinking players, we can represent the ace easily.

The way villain plays flop I put him on AJ/AQ type of hands or Ax draws, pushing river would look like a missed draw. What other hand would reraise flop and check turn behind on such a wet board? Any player with a bit of brains will figure out you represent pretty much nothing.

As played, shove turn 100%.


Myrddin84
Joined: 23.05.2007

Originally posted by Diedobal

Originally posted by Myrddin84
And what about a river push on that ace after Vilain's check ? Wouldn't it get loads of fold equity ? With 0 showdown value, I think i would make that against thinking players, we can represent the ace easily.

The way villain plays flop I put him on AJ/AQ type of hands or Ax draws, pushing river would look like a missed draw. What other hand would reraise flop and check turn behind on such a wet board? Any player with a bit of brains will figure out you represent pretty much nothing.

I think you should reconsiderate that on the turn and river.

I do not agree with the Ax on the flop, he will push or fold that draw OOP on the flop, as he needs the two remaining streets to profit from its equity.

I do not agree with AJ/AQ on the river. AJ is quite unlikely even after the flop play, and I can't see any player on the world not pushing top two pairs on the river for 1/2 PSB.


Well, it actually was A:cx:c what villain held, but that's irrelevant.

I just semibluffed a very good draw on the flop and missed on a turn where I assumed my fold equity very close to zero while I'm behind there vs almost his entire range, so I don't understand why I should voluntarily put money in when I'm behind when fold equity is about non existent. I can't think of a single hand he'd call a potsize raise on the flop with that would lay down on the turn for those odds.


TribunCaesar
Joined: 29.04.2007

Well, without fe I wouldn't shove the turn. But in this case I give myself foldequity if I haven't been splashing around before and therefore shove the turn.