[NL20-NL50] NL50 SH: AKs Squeeze, 4way flop

    • Diedobal
      Diedobal
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      Joined: 07.10.2007 Posts: 558
      $0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
      6 players
      Converted at weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG ($37.85) 36/15/1.0 ~70 hands.
      UTG+1 ($94.45)
      CO ($55.85) 18/18/5.0 ~50 hands.
      BTN ($50.00)
      SB ($40.40) 39/17/3.4 ~ 75 hands.
      Hero (BB) ($62.05)

      Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is BB K:diamond: A:diamond:
      UTG raises to $1.75, 1 fold, CO calls $1.75, 1 fold, SB calls $1.50, Hero raises to $8.50, UTG calls $6.75, CO calls $6.75, SB calls $6.75

      Flop: K:club: Q:club: T:diamond: ($34, 4 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, CO checks

      Turn: J:diamond: ($34, 4 players)
      SB checks, Hero goes all-in $53.55

      2 Questions:
      - Flopaction?
      - Turnaction?
  • 8 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      I would prefer to bet the flop & shove turn.
    • aciddrop
      aciddrop
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      Joined: 08.10.2006 Posts: 1,519
      As played, I wouldn't shove the turn. You have the nut straight, with a redraw to the nut flush. Let some other Ace come in with you.
    • Talic
      Talic
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      Joined: 04.01.2008 Posts: 1,851
      hey Diedobal, there is no reason to check flop, bet/shove, youre against 2 pair, OESD, str8's, flushdraw...mostly against 2 pair AND youre commited anyway because of the pot

      its like 38% approx. for you against 2 pair, I did have same hand recently
    • Diedobal
      Diedobal
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      Joined: 07.10.2007 Posts: 558
      My redenation for checking the flop:

      If I frontbet myself I only get called by hands that have me beat hard (AA, KK, 2pair or better) or where I flip against at max: JQ, Jx flushdraw etc... . By checking I try to induce a bet from worse ranges than those that would call me if I'd bet out myself.

      Any bet on flop makes me commited obviously.

      And why shouldn't I shove turn? I don't want to see a 3rd :club: or a paired board on the river. Any ace has to call me, and I have 9 suckout-outs on those aces on river.
    • Talic
      Talic
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      Joined: 04.01.2008 Posts: 1,851
      you cant check flop... too many cards you dont want to see
    • Zeffke
      Zeffke
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      Joined: 17.04.2007 Posts: 1,123
      Originally posted by Talic
      you cant check flop... too many cards you dont want to see
      Just b/c flop and get it in there
    • BogdanDin7
      BogdanDin7
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      Joined: 29.04.2008 Posts: 1,114
      I agree too that flop shoul be betted. You still get calls from draw of all sorts and even if you`re behind you are rarelly way behind. You can`t allow a free card on that board.
    • darkonebg
      darkonebg
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      Joined: 17.01.2008 Posts: 9,508
      Originally posted by Zeffke
      Originally posted by Talic
      you cant check flop... too many cards you dont want to see
      Just b/c flop and get it in there