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TheBrood
Joined: 17.07.2008

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[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$26.23:///////;MP3$4.45:38/26 /0 /2.0/50 /0 /0 /100 ;[/tg]
0.1/0.2 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q♦, 8♦
4 folds, MP3 calls $0.20, 3 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.50) Q♠, J♥, T♠ (2 players)
Hero bets $0.40, MP3 calls $0.40.

Turn: ($1.30) K♥ (2 players)
Hero bets $1.00, MP3 calls $1.00.

River: ($3.30) 9♣ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets $2.85 (All-In), Hero calls $2.85.

Final Pot: $9.00

Shoving accomplishes nothing and I figured he might bluff river, so I call for less than pot.


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c/f turn is better
I like river shove, rather than c/c


TheBrood Topic starter
TheBrood
Joined: 17.07.2008

Originally posted by Kaitz20
1- c/f turn is better
2- I like river shove, rather than c/c

1- why? its drawy and he doesnt have to have a straight
2- why?


Originally posted by TheBrood

Originally posted by Kaitz20
1- c/f turn is better
2- I like river shove, rather than c/c

1- why? its drawy and he doesnt have to have a straight
2- why?

1- you have there middle pair, with no kicker on 4-way straigth board. What worse hands would call your bet on the turn?
2- then you have fold equity and can win the pot. If you c/c then you´re only calling to splitting the pot at best case, which is not the best move, since he has there Ax at some times and you end up loosing in a long run.


TheBrood Topic starter
TheBrood
Joined: 17.07.2008

Originally posted by Kaitz20

Originally posted by TheBrood

Originally posted by Kaitz20
1- c/f turn is better
2- I like river shove, rather than c/c

1- why? its drawy and he doesnt have to have a straight
2- why?

1- you have there middle pair, with no kicker on 4-way straigth board. What worse hands would call your bet on the turn?
2- then you have fold equity and can win the pot. If you c/c then you´re only calling to splitting the pot at best case, which is not the best move, since he has there Ax at some times and you end up loosing in a long run.

1- FD
2- I dont think hes folding anything here but rake will definitely go up if I shove


Originally posted by TheBrood

Originally posted by Kaitz20

Originally posted by TheBrood

Originally posted by Kaitz20
1- c/f turn is better
2- I like river shove, rather than c/c

1- why? its drawy and he doesnt have to have a straight
2- why?

1- you have there middle pair, with no kicker on 4-way straigth board. What worse hands would call your bet on the turn?
2- then you have fold equity and can win the pot. If you c/c then you´re only calling to splitting the pot at best case, which is not the best move, since he has there Ax at some times and you end up loosing in a long run.

1- FD
2- I dont think hes folding anything here but rake will definitely go up if I shove

1- that is the only hand, but how many flushdraws he has on 4-straight board? He mostly has there hand that beat you.
2. I already explained why shoving is better than c/c. rake is not a factor there why you should c/c.


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