Do u think Poker is a sport?

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    • kingdippy2008
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      I think it can be considered as a sport. Look at the wikipedia definition of sport --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport

      However mainly peoples views and opinions decide whether it is or not ;)

      -Jack
    • degre
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      Videogames are considered sport, why not poker? :f_love:
    • Zheelvern
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      I think it's a game.
    • harleytopper
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      Of course it is not.

      Place one above average PS player vs 7 best players in the world (by titles winnings or whatever) and let them play SNG 1000 times. This player will not be favorite but he will win eventualy small portion of times.

      And now put above average sprinter vs 7 best sprinters in the world, he will will be last mayority of times (i mean in some runs somebody will get injury).

      Same goes with almost all sport disciplines.
    • shortfuse
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      Wiki links to 'mind sports' which redirects to games of skill. This is a more accurate definition.

      Those who call poker a sport give it too much credit. All modern sports have a regulatory board. Even worse, poker is banned in some countries. It is not a sport, no point trying to glamourise it. We play to win money. Most other sportsmen do not mainly play for monetary gains, they seek to be the best and for fame and do genuinely have a passion. Whilst many poker players may share these values, not all do. I.e I'm sure player A would not trade places with player B even if player B was better but had not won many WSOP events due to bad luck. However, most footballers hypothetically speaking would much rather win the world cup in return for giving up a portion of income. This is the crucial difference in attitude for sport. A more obvious difference would be athleticism.

      It is a game of skill and chance.
    • ShadowOfLight1337
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      It's chess, but with an aftertaste of luck.
    • thunderbird56
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      IMO, poker is a game and not a sport. Simply a sport makes us heathier but poker doesn't, even in some cases it may cause some heath problems e.g back problems...;)
    • Berzerger
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      I don't believe poker to be a sport in the true sense of the word. There is no sportsmanship, a good player is a selfish player who will stop at nothing to win more money, and couldn't care less if some other player loses his house. Then there's the luck factor, I'm not even sure how it would fit in the definition of sport.

      I wouldn't go as far as to compare it to chess. It is similar in the aspect of making the most (or biggest) mistakes will lead you to losing the game, however you can force a win in chess, but never in poker. Also, poker is an indepletable game at any limit, whereas in chess there's a perfect game which, when discovered, will significantly lower the popularity of chess and decrease the number of professionals.
    • swissmoumout
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      if there's no physical effort, I don't consider it a sport.
    • degre
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      Originally posted by thunderbird56
      IMO, poker is a game and not a sport. Simply a sport makes us heathier but poker doesn't, even in some cases it may cause some heath problems e.g back problems...;)
      When I said Videogames ARE a sport, I was serious, this invalid your theory as videogames may have the same effects :f_grin:
    • Irooz
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    • JuiceQuadre
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      Poker is not a game.. Poker is not a sport.. Poker is not a gamble..

      Poker is a life discipline. Thats why we love it =)
    • shortfuse
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      Originally posted by swissmoumout
      if there's no physical effort, I don't consider it a sport.
      chess is a sport.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_Olympiad
    • swissmoumout
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      i know. and?
    • shortfuse
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      Originally posted by swissmoumout
      i know. and?
      just saying not all sports have to require physical effort
    • luvr7
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      People have already said it and have said good reasons. It's not a sport, it's a game. It's on the sports channel cause they don't know where else to put it.
    • tokyoaces
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      You guys are forgetting where the word sport originates from.

      The word sport has to do with fun, leisure and recreation. We still use it this way occasionally to contrast people who do it as a profession: sport fishing and sport hunting.

      Sport has never actually meant something done professionally with a regulatory body, insane salaries, tons of scandals, plenty of drugs, and lots of women. Yet somehow people have decided that it's not a sport if it doesn't involve some kind of physical skill, sweating or any other of a number of qualifications. Usually these qualifications are just so the other party can prove that his hobby is superior to yours.

      There are many ways that our society, or at least American society, has decided that poker is a sport. You can find it on ESPN, there are major competitions sponsored by big companies, and people make professional livings playing and endorsing poker. You'll find these are all characteristics of modern sports.

      We also know a lot of people play poker for sport. They play to have fun, pass the time, socialize with friends, and any number of recreational reasons.

      Since it is so easy to prove poker is a sport you are only spinning your wheels trying to prove it's not. I suggest you work on a more interesting theorem such as 0.999... = 1 .
    • AlexanderD22
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      Originally posted by tokyoaces
      You guys are forgetting where the word sport originates from.

      The word sport has to do with fun, leisure and recreation. We still use it this way occasionally to contrast people who do it as a profession: sport fishing and sport hunting.
      LOL, my fiance is doing a masters degree in translation. Word origins aka etymology (sp?) give me headaches.

      The argument that it is a sport because of the origin of the word is a little ridiculous. Think of all the words where the meaning has changed over time. What once was will not always remain.

      Poker is not a sport. Is it fun to do? Yes. Do people enjoy watching it on TV? Yes. Sport? NO!
    • Waiboy
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      Originally posted by tokyoaces
      You guys are forgetting where the word sport originates from.

      The word sport has to do with fun, leisure and recreation. We still use it this way occasionally to contrast people who do it as a profession: sport fishing and sport hunting.

      ...

      Since it is so easy to prove poker is a sport you are only spinning your wheels trying to prove it's not.
      Hmmm... I'd always held tokyoaces view.. however the definition quoted above says the noun "sport" is a "game involving physical exercise".

      So whilst it is a game, and it is good sport, it doesn't involve physical exercise in any sense I can see (except if you're Hevad Khan - and he DEFINITELY needs the exercise).

      Having noted all this, there is a significant skill component to the game, and as far as I'm concerned is close enough to be considered a sport as makes no difference.

      And whilst it may be a fine line, I'd consider competitive pro Monopoly, Ludo and Chinese checkers games; poker, scrabble and chess sport - just based on the amount skill makes to the results of these games.

      I guess I'd define competitive games influenced significantly by skill sport. FWIW.

      Definining significantly on the other hand.. real debate there. Over to you Mr UIGEA fan!