how to play live?

    • mcrandle913
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      hi

      I was thinking about starting to play live games at my local G casino seeing as they have daily tournaments. Though i have never actually played a live game or even been in a casino just a few stupid home games with friend. I was wondering if anyone has any advice about what to look for at the tables, how to spot the regs, controlling my tells, and general casino etiquette :f_biggrin:

      Any help with this would be great

      Thanks
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    • Schnitzelfisch
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      Hello!

      You go into a casino, buy in for the tournament, wait a bit, drink something, sit down at a table, mindfuck everyone on the table, rinse and repeat. Win the tournament, pick a whore on your way home, have wild sex, waste the rest of your money on alcohol.

      Best regards,

      Primzi
    • Schnitzelfisch
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      P.S. on a serious note, I unfortunately don't have any experience with the live casino play, but I'm sure that some of our members will be able to help you :) . There is also a strategy section about live poker (follow this link), it has some very useful information like rules of strip poker, etc.

      Primzi
    • mcrandle913
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      haha good response lol

      yea primzi that's the plan mindfuck the shit out of it and hope the regs dont soul read me as its my first proper live game lol :f_biggrin:

      there's not too much about live poker on this site anyone know where I can check it out?? the strip poker was useful but might not go down well in the casino lol

      Also does anyone use other poker school sites apart from PS??
    • Wurble
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      Originally posted by mcrandle913
      haha good response lol

      yea primzi that's the plan mindfuck the shit out of it and hope the regs dont soul read me as its my first proper live game lol :f_biggrin:

      there's not too much about live poker on this site anyone know where I can check it out?? the strip poker was useful but might not go down well in the casino lol

      Also does anyone use other poker school sites apart from PS??
      Not sure if we're allowed to post links to other sites (sorry if not) but link removed by Primzi - breach of forum rules has some good articles... I think there's some live stuff there.

      I'm in the same boat as you - never been to a casino so can't be of any more help.

      Good luck though!
    • MrMardyBum
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      Originally posted by mcrandle913
      hi

      I was thinking about starting to play live games at my local G casino seeing as they have daily tournaments. Though i have never actually played a live game or even been in a casino just a few stupid home games with friend. I was wondering if anyone has any advice about what to look for at the tables, how to spot the regs, controlling my tells, and general casino etiquette :f_biggrin:

      Any help with this would be great

      Thanks

      The only thing I slipped on (three times :D ) Is that when you only put one chip forward it's a call regardless of the chip size unless you announce raise.:D

      Also, try not to make it look like your first time, it saves you getting 'gentle ribbing' etc.

      Other than that if it's not dealer dealt then practice your shuffling and dealing beforehand.
    • ihufa
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      I absulutely love playing live, although i haven't played a lot of it yet.

      I always make sure to not be afraid of asking (beginners) questions, like how much are these chips?, can you please show you cards? (after hand is done :D ), and if im in the mood to pretend to be retarded it's always fun to ask really dumb questions.
      And say you're sitting with 500bb and a shorty is sitting with 20bb. you raise to 3bb, he raises to 9bb and yo want to put him all in. then I'd typically raise to 440bb or something goofy :D .

      aaah live... hopefully i get to play some soon.
    • PiersM
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      The first thing to be aware of and prepared for is compared to online poker live poker is very very sloooooooooooooooow.

      Because your use to online poker your comfort zone or when your playing well and relaxed will mean you have a billion tells you are not aware of so try to be very aware of your actions the whole time and get used to a routine and stick to it something like

      Dont touch your cards till its your turn to speak.
      Look at your cards once and remember them, never look again.
      Choose a position to place your hands in and dont move them around too much.
      Never wave a clenched fist and shout "yes" when you flop the nuts
      Don't look dissapointed when you flop nothing
      Concentrate on other players actions AND more importantly re-actions.
      Don't try and bluff too much. Once or twice is more than enough.

      But the most important thing about playing live poker, when you're only used to online poker is ENJOY YOURSELF. Live poker is bloody good fun and i hope you enjoy it. Have a drink, chat at the table with other players and have a good time. I love it.
    • mcrandle913
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      thanks for the link a lot of live articles to keep me going until PS add some more.

      Thanks for the advice mardy if it wasn't dealer dealt i would have freaked out if hadn't know before hand lol

      So if some one bets 200 and i place 600 in the pot without saying raise will i get my 400 handed back or will it go into the pot??

      Thanks for the list of tells there also that will come in very handy. Yea im gettin tired of the repetitiveness of online play so I hope to go have fun and spice it up abit to help me concentrate on my next online session

      Haha ihufa i think i would become very unpopular at the table very quickly with those raises lol though i like the idea of pretending not to have a clue and ask alot of questions and that i don't know the rules... could be very profitable at the cash tables lol
    • MrMardyBum
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      you wouldn't get a 600 chip, but if it's 200 to call and you throw a 500 chip in without any verbal before it's a call. and the dealer would give you back 300.


      it's only if it's a singular chip. soon as you put in more than one and it's over the call size then it's a raise.
    • fuzzyfish
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      I must say betting in live play scares the s.. out of me. I mean, even if manage to memorize the values of different chips, the betting with them. Assesing the pot size on the river would take like 5 minutes I guess. And how do you know how many chips does an opponent put in? Do the like line them up before throwing it in or what? Dude, I plan to play on a live tournament sometime in the future, but right now it seems like learning Chinese to me. Is there any way to practice this? (I dont mean home-games. In home games usually nobody really knows how to bet properly...)
    • mcrandle913
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      ahhh i get it now mardy thanks for that also ill pay careful attention to that when playing live
    • mcrandle913
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      yea fuzzy thats a big worry for me too about the pot size and bet sizes but im sure it will work out fine once i get there and the nerves were off and start having fun :f_biggrin:
    • cataah
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      Originally posted by PiersM
      Dont touch your cards till its your turn to speak.
      I hate that very very much!!! And of course I will adopt it for my live game.
      I played with a guy who never looked at his cards before it was his time to act. I was looking to see a tell from him(does he like his cards? does he find his cards shitty?) but no tell from him because even he didn't know his cards. This is a very good move. you should use it.

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      I want to add something.
      If you win a big pot, or if you hit a lucky card and win, don't jump (haha, I won!!!) and don't laugh. Don't be happy. When you win, the other player losses. It is disrespectful to show your hapiness.

      I dont know how is on other places but where I play, after an all-in or after a big pot, the winner shakes the looser's hand an says something like: "I'm sorry"; "nice hand", "good game" something like that.
      It is a nice feeling when you loose and the winner shakes your hand with respect.

      Don't talk abouth the hand if you are not in action.
      After a hand is over, dont talk about it("you played bad" "you should play like this or that") Nobody likse an "expert" at the table. Dont talk with the poker words we use here like: "bankroll" "3bet" "pot odds" "outs" "shove". The only words they know are "bet" "call" "raise" "fold" (they know what fold means but very few know to fold :D ). probably some of them know what FD and SD are but that's all the poker words they know. Again: nobody wants an "expert" at the table.

      Dont take to much time when you are to act. Think what you will do before it's your time.

      Very important!
      Folow the game. nobody likes a player who never knows when it's his time to act. If they remind you it's your time too often, they will start to hate you.

      If you want to win the tournament, concentrate on your game. If you just want to have some fun than have fun - remember to not loose all your chips because you'll have to go home and no more fun for you that night :P

      hint: if it's your firts live game and if you are nervous or something than say that "Oh my god I am so nervous!!!" "my heart is exploding right now!" "look how I'm shaking!". They see that anyway but if you say what you are feeling they will not belive you and will think you are acting ;)

      Hope this helps and I wish you good luck!
    • cataah
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      Originally posted by mcrandle913
      So if some one bets 200 and i place 600 in the pot without saying raise will i get my 400 handed back or will it go into the pot??
      That depends from casino to casino.
      Sometimes it's a call sometimes it's a raise.
      You just have to be carefull to anounce verbaly your call or raise before you put the cips in.
    • jbpatzer
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      Playing my first ever live MTT on Wednesday night, so I'm finding this thread very helpful. Thanks chaps!
    • mcrandle913
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      hey cataah thanks for the advice, especially about the nerves :f_biggrin:

      I dont plan to discuss any hands at all in case i look look like i know what im doing lol but there is a strong poker following in Dundee city, the university has a poker society and there is a few poker clubs who meet up in the casino (which is a pretty small casino to be honest...8 poker tables including those set aside for tourneys think they have) so my main worry is sitting down with all the regulars and getting eating alive lol they will definitely know about all the poker terms lol

      I think im going to make my first visit in 2 weeks going to have a few practice runs with my friends in home games to get used to the slow pace of playing live :f_biggrin:

      keep the advice coming some really helpful stuff i hadn't even thought about!! keep it coming guys :D

      o and 1 thing as well i know is customary to tip the dealer when should i do this?? when i win a big pot? when he leaves the table? when i leave the table?? and also how much do i tip a few pounds maybe or a small percent of winnings (if i win) lol
    • Wurble
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      Originally posted by PiersM

      Look at your cards once and remember them, never look again.

      If you take this piece of advice make sure you remember your cards correctly!

      I played a home game, sng style, 7 players... Thought I had JTs, thought I flopped a straight... Stacked off.... Turned my cards over... J9s.... Out.

      :f_confused:
    • mcrandle913
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      Originally posted by Wurble
      Originally posted by PiersM

      Look at your cards once and remember them, never look again.

      If you take this piece of advice make sure you remember your cards correctly!

      I played a home game, sng style, 7 players... Thought I had JTs, thought I flopped a straight... Stacked off.... Turned my cards over... J9s.... Out.

      :f_confused:
      haha that does sound like something i would do lol thanks for that reminder to ill practice that a few times.. i must admit it was very good advice but its very tempting to look at them again lol
    • Hlynkinn
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      The only thing I slipped on (three times ) Is that when you only put one chip forward it's a call regardless of the chip size unless you announce raise.


      this depends on house rules.. Where I play 1 chip is always a call.. But I've heard a lot of people saying it's different elsewhere

      General rule I use is to always say the amount your gonna raise.. It's less likely you say something stupid than to accidentally throw in a $500 chip in the pot.

      preflop never look at your cards until it's your time to act.. Spend your time while all the fishes are looking at their cards to study their facial expression. since a lot of them think no one is looking at them since they think everyone is looking at their cards just like them. Normally you don't get any tells doing this but it's a bad habit to look at your cards before it's your turn to act.
      And trust me there is no feeling in the world quite like looking at Aces when there's a raise and a re-raise in front of you.. and you've had 93o all night :D

      Always try to remember your cards. Both suites.. You see a lot of beginners looking to see if they have one :heart: on a flop with :heart: :heart: :heart: ... Usually this is a really bad tell since everyone remembers if their hand was suited...

      And I see a lot of players getting bored when they are not playing a hand. use the time to study the opponents in the hand..

      And yea keep your eyes on stack sizes..